Don't make me cry!!
On 2023-07-07 14:09, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> The only shortage that exists is technical people with Bachelors
> Degrees willing to work for minimum wage.
>
> Case in point. My employer is required to post HR crap in the public
> spaces (break rooms). One of the posts showed Tata Consultancy was
> providing a DBA for $66K/year. Tata takes 1/3 (typical), so the
> resource is getting $44K/year ($22/hr). My kids make more than that
> with a High School education. This is what the young people are
> competing against, so why go into this field?
>
> Another case in point. My job got outsourced to Argentina and the
> resources were getting $6/hr. I later heard it got raised to $10/hr.
> That was still 1/4 of what I was making. Even if the Argentinians
> screwed up and had to rework a task, the company still saved 50% over
> hiring an American on that task, and they are elated at the cost
> savings.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Toft
>
> On 6/7/2023 3:29 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> On 2023-06-07 13:59, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> Generally, if I hear it from cable news, there's a good chance it's
>>> just someone drumming up support for something. In this case, we'll
>>> probably hear about some kind of H1B system to make sure the new fabs
>>> get all the people they need, etc. Same deal as when I was working
>>> at
>>> a company that got bought by Dell, and they failed to retain most of
>>> the new employees because they didn't have a structure that worked
>>> with professionals. Suddenly you saw Michael Dell doing an interview
>>> on CNBC about the need to extend H1B 'cause they aren't getting
>>> enough
>>> workers. At the very least, there's plenty of incentive to drive
>>> down
>>> labor costs. And with the halts for new housing going out, there is
>>> a
>>> LOT of incentive to manipulate the market.
>>>
>>> Am I being paranoid? I probably need to touch more grass.
>>
>> Are you getting too paranoid? Maybe not. I quit following the news
>> because I think most are fearmongering and not talking and working on
>> the real problems.
>>
>> I personally do not like the H1B visas because I do not think they are
>> necessary. If there is really a shortage of tech workers then why is
>> there not a few major tech universities? Why does Gates exploit the
>> H1B and not create a really great tech university? And why do the
>> politicians allow all of this?
>>
>> We have all we need right here in our 50 states, so why do we not do
>> things that benefit ourselves and possibly others?
>>
>> These people like Michael Dell, Bill Gates, etc have forgotten where
>> they came from.
>>
>> QUESTION?
>>
>> I understand TSMC produces the most chips in the world, and is located
>> in Taiwan . Where did they get that technology and who paid for that
>> technology?
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 1:15 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't believe everything you read on the internet. I've read that
>>>> Abraham Lincoln blames Donald Trump for giving the gun to John
>>>> Wilkes Booth.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/6/23 17:45, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Chip maker TSMC is moving to chandler and I have read they are a
>>>>> sweatshop....
>>>>>
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