Don't make me cry!! On 2023-07-07 14:09, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote: > The only shortage that exists is technical people with Bachelors > Degrees willing to work for minimum wage. > > Case in point.  My employer is required to post HR crap in the public > spaces (break rooms).  One of the posts showed Tata Consultancy was > providing a DBA for $66K/year.  Tata takes 1/3 (typical), so the > resource is getting $44K/year ($22/hr).  My kids make more than that > with a High School education.  This is what the young people are > competing against, so why go into this field? > > Another case in point.  My job got outsourced to Argentina and the > resources were getting $6/hr.  I later heard it got raised to $10/hr.  > That was still 1/4 of what I was making.  Even if the Argentinians > screwed up and had to rework a task, the company still saved 50% over > hiring an American on that task, and they are elated at the cost > savings. > > Regards, > > George Toft > > On 6/7/2023 3:29 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> On 2023-06-07 13:59, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> Generally, if I hear it from cable news, there's a good chance it's >>> just someone drumming up support for something.  In this case, we'll >>> probably hear about some kind of H1B system to make sure the new fabs >>> get all the people they need, etc.  Same deal as when I was working >>> at >>> a company that got bought by Dell, and they failed to retain most of >>> the new employees because they didn't have a structure that worked >>> with professionals.  Suddenly you saw Michael Dell doing an interview >>> on CNBC about the need to extend H1B 'cause they aren't getting >>> enough >>> workers.  At the very least, there's plenty of incentive to drive >>> down >>> labor costs.  And with the halts for new housing going out, there is >>> a >>> LOT of incentive to manipulate the market. >>> >>> Am I being paranoid?  I probably need to touch more grass. >> >> Are you getting too paranoid?  Maybe not.  I quit following the news >> because I think most are fearmongering and not talking and working on >> the real problems. >> >> I personally do not like the H1B visas because I do not think they are >> necessary. If there is really a shortage of tech workers then why is >> there not a few major tech universities?  Why does Gates exploit the >> H1B and not create a really great tech university? And why do the >> politicians allow all of this? >> >> We have all we need right here in our 50 states, so why do we not do >> things that benefit ourselves and possibly others? >> >> These people like Michael Dell, Bill Gates, etc have forgotten where >> they came from. >> >> QUESTION? >> >> I understand TSMC produces the most chips in the world, and is located >> in Taiwan .  Where did they get that technology and who paid for that >> technology? >> >> >> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 1:15 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Don't believe everything you read on the internet.  I've read that >>>> Abraham Lincoln blames Donald Trump for giving the gun to John >>>> Wilkes Booth. >>>> >>>> On 6/6/23 17:45, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>> Chip maker TSMC is moving to chandler and I have read they are a >>>>> sweatshop.... >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> -- James McPhee >>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss