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Author: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Michael Butash
Subject: Re: Reliable ISP?
>> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential? I pay $79/mo
for CBS for Internet only.

Well, admittedly I've not looked at CBS service in a while, I switched from
Cox to CL a few years ago when they implemented bandwidth caps, and never
really looked back, but that pricing seems not too bad now. Someone
probably realized folks were going elsewhere and decided to be more
competitive, plus with them offering even gig rates over cable, 50mbps
sounds like crap so they can sell it cheaper, but would probably still be
adequate for me as that's about what I had on residential when I left cox
years ago. My torrents might take a bit longer, but that's ok, and I don't
have a house of kids (or even adults) all streaming netflix at the same
time to need more.

In the past, there was a significant drop in bandwidth for CBS from
residential services that took it well over 100 bucks (closer to $200) to
get a comparable CBS circuit, and because they've laxed a lot of the port
restrictions over the years simply wasn't necessary outside maybe support
to get someone out same-day if needed. Even when I worked for them I
thought it was overpriced.

I can't complain too much about CL other than lately congestion in the
evenings I can quantify (which Cox would too), and 125mbps down for $55/mo
is a win/win in my book over cox at half the bandwidth and paying some $25
more per month. In the few years I've been with them, I've had no hard
outages either. I can still https to my firewall for vpn, all I really
need. Something to be said for legacy 2-wire technology where available if
you don't need 100's of mbps or gig rates (which most really still don't).

-mb


On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM <> wrote:

> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential? I pay $79/mo
> for CBS for Internet only. I looked into residential a while ago and
> found that after that initial discount the cost of residential service
> for just Internet was about the same.
>
> The difference I found was T.V. channels. The packages differ.
>
> I may have hit my limit with running a server... may not need/want to go
> any further. Was satisfying to be able to be able to get things running
> though. Bind and Postfix/Dovecot where the challenges for me. Especially
> Postfix/Dovecot.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2021-11-18 13:15, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> I am told I can rent more static IPs... I assume I will need some
> > hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP unless I am port
> > forwarding to different boxes.
> >
> > Not really, just about any *nix-y system can accommodate that with NAT
> > as a firewall/router/gateway, whatever you want to call it, with one
> > ip or many. Even basic WRT-based systems ala netgear/linksys can tend
> > to handle this in theory with basic network iptables features.
> > Probably best would be something like pfsync, which there is plenty of
> > cheap gateway hardware out there that can run it, or any older (ie.
> > cheap) enterprise firewalls.
> >
> > Old days the biggest reason for multiple ip's was SSL requiring 1:1 IP
> > to DNS binding, but this has gotten easier out of necessity with use
> > of Subject Alternative Names (SAN) as part of the certs. If you need
> > the same external port being forwarded to multiple internal
> > ports/services is about the only other reason for multiple ip's, but
> > as long as you can define separate ports for what is connecting to it,
> > not so much.
> >
> > When you get to the point you want to do so, more than few of us have
> > probably done so to help you through it and understand the concepts
> > once you know what you need/want to do.
> >
> >>> Cox Business does not block any ports.
> >
> > The only residential ports they block really relevant these days is 80
> > for http (not 443/https, so why 80??), and smtp for email, but these
> > days there is little reason to run your own smtp server unless you're
> > just doing it to do it or honeypot spammers trying to hit you 24/7 for
> > no good reasons. I'd run sslvpn for remote access on https/443 just
> > fine on res service, I just need to make sure to type https://.
> >
> >>> I am satisfied with Cox Business
> >
> > CBS service is just pricey (compared to residential) to begin with,
> > unlimited bandwidth and unblocked ports or not imho, but otherwise
> > about the best/cheapest "business class" service/support you can get,
> > if you can get it in your hood.
> >
> > -mb
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 12:04 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> > <> wrote:
> >
> >> I've had a Cox Business account for maybe 8 years. I've only had
> >> one
> >> outage, and it was short. My package is a home office type of plan.
> >> I
> >> am currently running a LAMP + BIND + Postfix + Dovecot on a laptop
> >> on my
> >> single static IP. I am told I can rent more static IPs... I assume
> >> I
> >> will need some hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP
> >> unless
> >> I am port forwarding to different boxes.
> >> I configured this server on a laptop to see if I could do it. I am
> >> a
> >> PHP dev, with some light LAMP server experience. I still have a lot
> >> to
> >> learn.
> >>
> >> Cox Business does not block any ports.
> >>
> >> Cox tells me there will never be any overages because on my plan I
> >> purchase a set up and down which cannot be exceeded.
> >>
> >> I am satisfied with Cox Business
> >>
> >> On 2021-11-14 11:21, Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> Any recommendations for a reliable ISP?
> >>>
> >>> (Couldn't find any recent discussion in the PLUG archives, so am
> >>> asking here.)
> >>>
> >>> I currently have a business account (I'm running a small server on
> >> a
> >>> static public IP address for my business), but am having a
> >> *terrible*
> >>> time with my current ISP. Worked *great* for about a year, but
> >> have
> >>> been having daily outages for about a month now.
> >>>
> >>> Don't even want to say the name for fear of being sued for libel.
> >> They
> >>> were honest enough to admit it is an "internal issue", and have no
> >> ETA
> >>> on a fix. "[Their] technicians continue to work to resolve the
> >>> problem in [my] neighborhood. Currently, there is no estimated
> >> time
> >>> for when service will be restored."
> >>>
> >>> I get the feeling they don't have a grasp on the problem, as when
> >> I
> >>> call their status line they report an outage even when the system
> >> is
> >>> up. When my connection goes down, a modem reboot sometimes (but
> >> not
> >>> always) gets me connected again.
> >>>
> >>> Speed is not an issue. But reliability is! Any suggestions would
> >> be
> >>> greatly appreciated.
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