Re: Why have HackFests been Dropped from the PLUG Schedule?

Gee Lisa, I'm not sure I understand all of this, but at
least it written in English!!
At 08:22 AM 11/30/2014, Lisa Kachold wrote:
Hans/(All),
PLUG (aka Hans [since actually no leadership was ever allowed] is going
to have to state the rules under which you are "dismissing" via
schedule removal a healthy regular popular venue.Â
PLUG (aka Hans "Luft") Â is going to have to reference when
those rules were published and when they were delivered to me.Â
EVERYONE has historically had their own website, because PLUG does not
allow:
1) Specific wording in announcements.
2) Submitting additional announcements and extensive innovative
content.
3) Presentation postings.
Examples of other historic users (in good standing) with their own
websites to support their presentations and community endeavors
include:
Ryan Rix
Alan Dayley
Joseph Sinclair
Brian Cluff
Alexander Henry
The PLUG (lack of structure and rules/guidelines) consistent with other
cities of comparable sizes (specific examples are Seattle, Los Angeles
and Portland) has kept the group from becoming all that a LUG can be. Â

Older retired penguins have devoted thousands of hours and dollars each
year purchasing their own equipment for community venues like Installfest
without anyone in PLUG "leadership" even getting a 501(c)3
rider under another PLUG to allow income tax relief.
Here's a long list of past discussions that echo these limitations and
issues:




http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20100205.085425.dbace92f.en.html


http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20130508.020509.d70d1744.en.html


http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20090806.163922.37c4d455.en.html


http://208.77.223.83/lurker/message/20101108.063046.7219d889.en.html

The ramifications of PLUG (aka Hans "Luft") limiting
announcements and venues (like the HackFest) that promote continuing
educational schools (other than Mesa Community College [where he has been
adjunct teacher]) are obvious.
The ramifications of PLUG (aka Hans "Luft")
"dropping" a 7 year successful event like the HackFest is
HUGE.
I have been long contacted by members active for many years who want
support to backup recommendations to disband the PLUG (or remove
"Presidential dictatorship") Â with a long laundry list of
reasons from sexual harassment (Example: Hans raising his wedding ring
clad finger to women as they wait to speak with him about PLUG matters
during public community events [which I have experienced twice myself]) Â
to outright misuse of funding ( [tee shirts and donations from local
businesses] and PLUG interns/students raising money for sister project
ABLEConf) as well as inappropriate steering to classes at Mesa Community
College during "OpenSource" community venues.
I have stayed out of escalation of those issues to other authorities, but
"Silence is DEATH" and a Linux Users Group where membership
live in threat of social ostracism and promote via "inner circle
relationships" (or make decisions like drop a healthy venue without
written rules or warning) is nothing more than a "GANG" and is
destined to die.
1) Please show me the rules under which removal of the HackFests from the
calendar was made?  If there was a scheduling issue, why was I not
called or allowed to reschedule?  Our security community and active
interns have been historically very changeable and this could be easily
arranged at DeVry University who also provide a rack at OneNeck.
 Â
2) Please show me the rules that state posting a discussion to more than
one mailing list with the same content is disallowed?   It is not
on any of the mailing list phxlinux.org
pages? Â
3) And while we are talking about it, please show me the rules (in any
PLUG) that state that we can't have TWO PLUG EVENTS on the same
day?  Is that because the website php CMS software won't allow it?
[/LAUGH]
I have a HackFest iPhone and Android app ready (which can be released in
the next week) to submit to Google Play and Apple Store. I will happily
leave the phxlinux.org and PLUG name
out of that code.
Thanks for "allowing me" to continue to announce the HackFests
on the mailing lists. Â
Happy ThanksGiving
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 1:08 AM, der.hans
<PLUGd@lufthans.com>
wrote:


Am 29. Nov, 2014 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so:

moin moin Lisa,


I was curious as to why you have removed the Hackfests (2nd Saturday
of

every month) afrom the PLUG Calendar?



You've been acting as a seperate group for years. You have your own
web

site and mailing list for your group.

Â



You may continue announcing your events on the list, but please
stop

cross-posting to multiple lists.

ciao,

der.hans



Hackfests have been going strong since 2008 and have students from
ITT and

strong support from DeVry where instructors provide extra credit to
their

security students for attendance.

DeVry University provides a rack for PLUG use (providing it is
actually

used in context with student related open source activities) at
OneNeck

which is populated with a VMWare ESXi 5.5 server, OpenVPN server,
Security

Onion, Metasploitable and other images for demonstration purposes,
all of

which has been built entirely with community contributed assets and
intern

effort.  We contribute Kali CD's for lab demonstration use,
promotional tee

shirts and shared DefCon videos each year.

We have a large following of local security professionals, with
visits from

University of Phoenix, Palo Verde Nuclear, Department of the Army
and

GoDaddy staff.

I have received no notice related to any new requirements or
change?

I have posted monthly announcements to the PLUG Announce list since
2008

and have never been notified of any other PLUG requirements?

Please add this great linux security lab venue back to the PLUG
Schedule.

2nd Saturday  of every month 11:00 - 2:00 PM.

DeVry University

Thanks



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