Re: Geek/Tech/Entrepreneur Stuff to do in PHX

> >> >>>>    Wish I had time to respond to all
> >> these points right now, not sure
> >> >>>> you read me the way I would prefer
> >> however.  Its not so grave a
> >> >>>> warning, just getting the word out on my
> >> first hand experiences.  Im
> >> >>>> just one of many- but hopefully an
> >> impartial observer and someone
> >> >>>> genuinely concerned for AZ.

> >> >>>>>>    while I appreciate your post,
> >> and anyone who is making a sincere
> >> >>>>>> effort to build community in
> >> Phoenix... be warned.  There are some
> >> >>>>>> small groups who periodically
> >> spawn off new 'communities' every month
> >> >>>>>> or so.  Look closely and you see
> >> the same few people with reused
> >> >>>>>> marketing recipes.  Lots of blog
> >> and not too much community I'm
> >> >>>>>> afraid.  Their efforts amount to
> >> some simple branding and putting up a
> >> >>>>>> blog.  While these things are not
> >> really particularily offensive to
> >> >>>>>> me, they do somewhat detract from
> >> interest in the real needs of the
> >> >>>>>> community here.  Some of these
> >> people are just outright idiotic and
> >> >>>>>> cannot deal with existing
> >> structure and refuse to accept the history
> >> >>>>>> of efforts in the past.  They
> >> lack any articulation of their goals and
> >> >>>>>> purpose.  Often times they have
> >> trouble organizing even small groups
> >> >>>>>> of 2 or 3.  Dont forget we've had
> >> a tech incubator here.  Lets not
> >> >>>>>> smack down sincere criticism in
> >> favor of giddy blind optimism,
> >> >>>>>> remember you can't improve without
> >> criticism.  I would take these
> >> >>>>>> people much more seriously if they
> >> addressed the efforts of the past
> >> >>>>>> and perhaps suggested how they are
> >> going to improve on them, or
> >> >>>>>> perhaps indicate what has changed
> >> that will make them a success.
> >> >>>>>> Maybe seeking real political
> >> support would gain some legitimacy.

> >> >>>>>>    on the positive side, I think
> >> Phoenix will attract a lot of
> >> >>>>>> technology business due to its
> >> relative low cost and no doubt you will
> >> >>>>>> start to see community
> >> infrastructure grow.  We are seeing some real
> >> >>>>>> urban development happening in Phx
> >> metro which has me very excited.  I
> >> >>>>>> think when the macroeconomic
> >> problems are sorted out we will see
> >> >>>>>> downtown Phx bloom.  Im hoping
> >> that the average Arizonan gets involved
> >> >>>>>> in the political process and make
> >> sure that the corruption stays out
> >> >>>>>> of city and state politics.
> >>  Coming from NY, Im recognizing a lot of
> >> >>>>>> positive development trends in Phx
> >> metro.