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Author: Don Calfa
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: OT Arizona drivers
I just want my car to drive me like in "Minority Report" then everybody
will do the speed limit.

Bart Garst wrote:

>On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 09:20, Josef Lowder wrote:
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>
>>Definitely off topic, but I can't help but respond to this with a rant.
>>
>>On Tuesday 11 January 2005 00:13, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>and of course driving with these people in the rain is funny. when we
>>>>have normal weather they drive like maniacs, when the road gets wet
>>>>suddenly it's dangerous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>It's not just when it gets wet that it is dangerous, though.
>>
>>
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>>>Roads are dangerous because idiots can't be bothered to think farther than
>>>1 second ahead. Wet, dry, cold, hot, doesn't matter they still drive like
>>>madmen. Diving across lanes, puttering at 45 when flow in 75, turning left
>>>from the right hand lane, turning right from the left hand lane, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>Arizona drivers are, hands down, the absolute worst, most inconsiderate,
>>most careless, most reckless drivers I have ever experienced in 40+ years
>>of driving in 30+ states in the US and in England. I lived here for three
>>years before I saw the first Arizona Highway Patrol vehicle stop one
>>of these lunatics. The evidence of just how bad it is can be seen in
>>the dailiy refreshed black skid marks cris-crossing the freeways and
>>the absurd number of residue of crashes into the concrete barriers that
>>can be throughout the valley, especially on 60 where I drive most.
>>
>>
>
>I also agree.
>
>
>
>>Sorry for the rant. I've called 911 to report several of the most extreme
>>offenders and I've written to the state highway patrol several times,
>>but I get the impression that they really don't care. I've had Arizona
>>highway patrol vehicles pass me going 10-20 mph faster than the
>>speed limit when they were just crusing along with no lights or sirens.
>>
>>
>
>Arizona law enforcement officers have an understanding amongst
>themselves: flash your badge == no ticket.
>
>If you think about that, cops rarely pull anyone over for reckless
>driving. You have to be pretty bad to get their attention. Cop or no
>cop, if a person is driving that bad they should be cited.
>
>As for Mike comment about 55 being more dangerous that driving 70 to
>keep up with traffic...
>You have a valid point except for a couple issues.
>1) Wouldn't it be safer if everyone was driving 55 instead of 70?
>Just because you can't obey the law, doesn't mean everyone should.
>2) How fast is the vehicle designed to go?
>Most of those skid marks are from vehicles exceeding their "safe" speed.
>Anyone care to guess at which speed a set of standard highway tires
>begin to de-laminate in 110 degree heat? It's a lot lower than you might
>think.
>
>My observations show that some people just aren't comfortable unless
>they are going 5mph (or so) faster than everyone else. If we are all
>suddenly going 70, they are going 80. Next thing you know "normal" speed
>is in the 85mph range. Call me old, but that's beyond my comfort level.
>
>My $.02,
>Bart
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