But when you look at it in context he said "But to go around spitting on
people who don't happen to support your agenda". That tells people that the
towel is to wipw up the spit. It can be construed as offensiv but only if you
are like an 'ohhhhhh so sensitive' weenie that takes offense at the slightest
injunction. If you think about it this comment can be thought of as offensive
not only to arabic people (did i tell you that I think they are beautiful
people) but also to african-ameri..... that word pisses me off. If I have to
be white than they can be black.... or brown...... or milk chocolate for all
I care. What do you call a white african living in the US? Are they white or
are they African-American. This entire subject peeves me!
SORRY I BROUGHT IT UP!
You can respond to this comment if you like. I will comment on it no more.
On Thursday 02 December 2004 12:16 pm, Lee Einer wrote:
> I am most emphatically not looking for offensive comments. But "towel
> head" is a derogatory term for a person of middle-eastern descent. So
> what did you take this comment to mean ..."makes me wonder if you wear a
> towel on your head?" Does it mean that you maybe just got out of the
> shower and are drying your luxuriously long hair?
>
> Michael Ray Havens wrote:
> >Towel........ Ohhhhhhh! A turban. I didn't see it as racist. Are you
> > looking for 'offensive' comments?
> >
> >On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:04 am, Lee Einer wrote:
> >>Phil Mattison wrote:
> >>>>From what you have written, I get the clear feeling that these are your
> >>>
> >>>positions:
> >>>>1. Linux kernel & shell are a-ok, no problems.
> >>>>2. X based desktop environments (kde/gnome/etc) too slow, buggy,
> >>>> crappy. 3. Free alternatives to commercial products are not good.
> >>>>4. Commercial motivation = good products.
> >>>
> >>>Close, but I would say:
> >>>
> >>>1. Linux kernel & shell are a-ok, no problems.
> >>>2. X based desktop environments (kde/gnome/etc) [tend to be] too slow,
> >>>buggy, crappy.
> >>>3. Free alternatives to commercial products tend to be slow, buggy,
> >>>crappy. 4. Commercial motivation does not necessarily result in good
> >>>products, but of necessity tends to place more emphasis on identifying
> >>>and meeting the needs of a specific market. Open source projects seem
> >>>often to be done by hobbyists who then want the satisfaction of seeing
> >>>other people benefit from their work. There is nothing wrong with that
> >>>but it does not foster the same level of discipline you find in most
> >>>commercial projects. The GPL can be both a blessing and a curse.
> >>>
> >>>Does that mean I never use free software? Certainly not. Far be it from
> >>> me to make "perfect" the enemy of "good enough." But neither will I
> >>> fool myself into believing that GPL is good and commercial software is
> >>> evil, even if I do think it is usually overpriced.
> >>>
> >>>I guess the reason for my initial comments were that I was thinking
> >>> about the recent experience of a friend of my son's who was interested
> >>> in Linux. I recommended Mandrake 9.2 because I found the installation
> >>> to be quite painless. He had trouble downloading the ISO images and
> >>> making a CD set that would install, and so went out and spent $100 on a
> >>> shrink-wrapped distro, I think it was SUSE. He couldn't get that to
> >>> install either. I recommended going to one of the install-fests but I
> >>> don't think he wanted to wait that long. After this experience he
> >>> probably is now an avowed critic of Linux.
> >>>
> >>>To those who wish to make Linux into a religious crusade I would say the
> >>>reward isn't necessarily worth the effort. If you were offering eternal
> >>>life that might be another matter. But to go around spitting on people
> >>>who don't happen to support your agenda makes me wonder if you wear a
> >>>towel on your head.
> >>>
> >>>--Phil M.
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>But to go around spitting on people who don't
> >>>happen to support your agenda makes me wonder if you wear a towel on
> >>> your head.
> >>
> >>Well, the towel would help clean up the spit... of course, some folks
> >>would not think that's what you were driving at, and would instead take
> >>the above to be a racist slur against people of arabic or middle-eastern
> >>descent. That would be unfortunate, as racist remarks tend to brand the
> >>utterer as both ignorant and mean-spirited.
--
<:-)Mike(-:>
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