Re: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #5075 - 10 msgs

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Author: Lee Einer
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #5075 - 10 msgs
I am most emphatically not looking for offensive comments. But "towel
head" is a derogatory term for a person of middle-eastern descent. So
what did you take this comment to mean ..."makes me wonder if you wear a
towel on your head?" Does it mean that you maybe just got out of the
shower and are drying your luxuriously long hair?

Michael Ray Havens wrote:

>Towel........ Ohhhhhhh! A turban. I didn't see it as racist. Are you looking
>for 'offensive' comments?
>
>On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:04 am, Lee Einer wrote:
>
>
>>Phil Mattison wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>From what you have written, I get the clear feeling that these are your
>>>
>>>positions:
>>>
>>>
>>>>1. Linux kernel & shell are a-ok, no problems.
>>>>2. X based desktop environments (kde/gnome/etc) too slow, buggy, crappy.
>>>>3. Free alternatives to commercial products are not good.
>>>>4. Commercial motivation = good products.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Close, but I would say:
>>>
>>>1. Linux kernel & shell are a-ok, no problems.
>>>2. X based desktop environments (kde/gnome/etc) [tend to be] too slow,
>>>buggy, crappy.
>>>3. Free alternatives to commercial products tend to be slow, buggy,
>>>crappy. 4. Commercial motivation does not necessarily result in good
>>>products, but of necessity tends to place more emphasis on identifying
>>>and meeting the needs of a specific market. Open source projects seem
>>>often to be done by hobbyists who then want the satisfaction of seeing
>>>other people benefit from their work. There is nothing wrong with that
>>>but it does not foster the same level of discipline you find in most
>>>commercial projects. The GPL can be both a blessing and a curse.
>>>
>>>Does that mean I never use free software? Certainly not. Far be it from me
>>>to make "perfect" the enemy of "good enough." But neither will I fool
>>>myself into believing that GPL is good and commercial software is evil,
>>>even if I do think it is usually overpriced.
>>>
>>>I guess the reason for my initial comments were that I was thinking about
>>>the recent experience of a friend of my son's who was interested in Linux.
>>>I recommended Mandrake 9.2 because I found the installation to be quite
>>>painless. He had trouble downloading the ISO images and making a CD set
>>>that would install, and so went out and spent $100 on a shrink-wrapped
>>>distro, I think it was SUSE. He couldn't get that to install either. I
>>>recommended going to one of the install-fests but I don't think he wanted
>>>to wait that long. After this experience he probably is now an avowed
>>>critic of Linux.
>>>
>>>To those who wish to make Linux into a religious crusade I would say the
>>>reward isn't necessarily worth the effort. If you were offering eternal
>>>life that might be another matter. But to go around spitting on people
>>>who don't happen to support your agenda makes me wonder if you wear a
>>>towel on your head.
>>>
>>>--Phil M.
>>>
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>>>
>>>But to go around spitting on people who don't
>>>happen to support your agenda makes me wonder if you wear a towel on your
>>>head.
>>>
>>>
>>Well, the towel would help clean up the spit... of course, some folks
>>would not think that's what you were driving at, and would instead take
>>the above to be a racist slur against people of arabic or middle-eastern
>>descent. That would be unfortunate, as racist remarks tend to brand the
>>utterer as both ignorant and mean-spirited.
>>
>>
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>
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Lee Einer
Dos Manos Jewelry
http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com



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