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Author: Michael Ray Havens
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #5075 - 10 msgs
Towel........ Ohhhhhhh! A turban. I didn't see it as racist. Are you looking
for 'offensive' comments?

On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:04 am, Lee Einer wrote:
> Phil Mattison wrote:
> >>From what you have written, I get the clear feeling that these are your
> >
> >positions:
> >>1. Linux kernel & shell are a-ok, no problems.
> >>2. X based desktop environments (kde/gnome/etc) too slow, buggy, crappy.
> >>3. Free alternatives to commercial products are not good.
> >>4. Commercial motivation = good products.
> >
> >Close, but I would say:
> >
> >1. Linux kernel & shell are a-ok, no problems.
> >2. X based desktop environments (kde/gnome/etc) [tend to be] too slow,
> >buggy, crappy.
> >3. Free alternatives to commercial products tend to be slow, buggy,
> > crappy. 4. Commercial motivation does not necessarily result in good
> > products, but of necessity tends to place more emphasis on identifying
> > and meeting the needs of a specific market. Open source projects seem
> > often to be done by hobbyists who then want the satisfaction of seeing
> > other people benefit from their work. There is nothing wrong with that
> > but it does not foster the same level of discipline you find in most
> > commercial projects. The GPL can be both a blessing and a curse.
> >
> >Does that mean I never use free software? Certainly not. Far be it from me
> >to make "perfect" the enemy of "good enough." But neither will I fool
> > myself into believing that GPL is good and commercial software is evil,
> > even if I do think it is usually overpriced.
> >
> >I guess the reason for my initial comments were that I was thinking about
> >the recent experience of a friend of my son's who was interested in Linux.
> > I recommended Mandrake 9.2 because I found the installation to be quite
> > painless. He had trouble downloading the ISO images and making a CD set
> > that would install, and so went out and spent $100 on a shrink-wrapped
> > distro, I think it was SUSE. He couldn't get that to install either. I
> > recommended going to one of the install-fests but I don't think he wanted
> > to wait that long. After this experience he probably is now an avowed
> > critic of Linux.
> >
> >To those who wish to make Linux into a religious crusade I would say the
> >reward isn't necessarily worth the effort. If you were offering eternal
> > life that might be another matter. But to go around spitting on people
> > who don't happen to support your agenda makes me wonder if you wear a
> > towel on your head.
> >
> >--Phil M.
> >
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> >But to go around spitting on people who don't
> >happen to support your agenda makes me wonder if you wear a towel on your
> >head.
>
> Well, the towel would help clean up the spit... of course, some folks
> would not think that's what you were driving at, and would instead take
> the above to be a racist slur against people of arabic or middle-eastern
> descent. That would be unfortunate, as racist remarks tend to brand the
> utterer as both ignorant and mean-spirited.


--
<:-)Mike(-:>

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