Interesting thing, lately I keep powertop up on my laptop to see what is
using what power, and oddly Zoom is always one of the worst. It has
multiple processes that become top-talkers each for power consumption,
hence what will drain your battery quickest. Wonder if others have
noticed this using Zoom, even on other platforms. I'm inclined to
complain. Not to mention it uses a few gig of ram at a time.
That said, I did install M$ Teams linux client again, and it's generally
worse power usage. Another go figure. And their stupid app can still only
handle one organlization at a time on their electron client. Ugh, they
just don't get it. All they have to do is copy slack's client, don't
deviate, don't think. So useless, thanks microsoft.
-mb
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:47 AM Michael Butash <
michael@butash.net> wrote:
> How's the video sharing and remote control capabilities? That is always
> the issue with linux involved.
>
> Teams, UberConf both don't allow remote control, so they're only
> half-functional imho. Even sharing alone, both were also bad about letting
> me share one of my 3 displays at a time, only allowing the full 3x display,
> or a single application at a time. Zoom and WebEx allow me to show each
> display individually. It's like a feature they don't know exists, but is
> damn relevant when you have 2-3 displays going at a time.
>
> I use hangouts still for my sms as my main number *is* gvoice still, but
> hangouts, duo, etc have never been too usable, or at least everyone else
> just went back to the facebook/instagram/whatsapp cartel, or use their
> work's service ala zoom/webex/etc. I don't care about or use video (no one
> wants to see me), I just need desktop sharing and remote control to get
> their stuff working.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> We have been using the crap out of it at work, and it does a good job,
>> simple with minimal extras, but sometimes that's what you need.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:41 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet,
>>> giving free 60min conference calls to folks. Not used it yet, but probably
>>> should try to see the capabilities.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash <michael@butash.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>>>>
>>>> Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco
>>>> anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure
>>>> out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far
>>>> for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I
>>>> use it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds
>>>> of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same
>>>> shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a
>>>> security audit.
>>>>
>>>> Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for
>>>> years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never
>>>> offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I
>>>> really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other
>>>> quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally.
>>>>
>>>> M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control.
>>>> Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are
>>>> using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux
>>>> client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or
>>>> about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few
>>>> months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft,
>>>> thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software.
>>>>
>>>> GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily
>>>> no one seems to use them anymore.
>>>>
>>>> -mb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac
>>>>>
>>>>> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so:
>>>>>
>>>>> moin moin,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my
>>>>> screen,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some
>>>>> JavaScript,
>>>>> but no completely 3rd party stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex
>>>>> join
>>>>> meeting UI sucks pretty badly.
>>>>>
>>>>> ciao,
>>>>>
>>>>> der.hans
>>>>>
>>>>> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client,
>>>>> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in
>>>>> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing
>>>>> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is
>>>>> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support
>>>>> screen capture on Wayland.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is
>>>>> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a
>>>>> phone. So still using Zoom.
>>>>> Phil W
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss
>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> moin moin,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button
>>>>> (
>>>>> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using
>>>>> a
>>>>> variety of tools that others get to choose for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still
>>>>> learning how to safely display images.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the
>>>>> recurring zoom issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> ciao,
>>>>>
>>>>> der.hans
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