We have been using the crap out of it at work, and it does a good job,
simple with minimal extras, but sometimes that's what you need.
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:41 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet, giving
> free 60min conference calls to folks. Not used it yet, but probably should
> try to see the capabilities.
>
> https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash <michael@butash.net> wrote:
>
>> > Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>>
>> Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco
>> anymore.
>>
>> Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure
>> out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far
>> for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I
>> use it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds
>> of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same
>> shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a
>> security audit.
>>
>> Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for
>> years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never
>> offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I
>> really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other
>> quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally.
>>
>> M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control.
>> Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are
>> using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux
>> client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or
>> about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few
>> months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft,
>> thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software.
>>
>> GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily no
>> one seems to use them anymore.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM:
>>>
>>> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my
>>> screen,
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some JavaScript,
>>> but no completely 3rd party stuff.
>>>
>>> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex
>>> join
>>> meeting UI sucks pretty badly.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>>
>>> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client,
>>> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in
>>> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing
>>> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is
>>> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support
>>> screen capture on Wayland.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>
>>> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is
>>> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a
>>> phone. So still using Zoom.
>>> Phil W
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button
>>> (
>>> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using
>>> a
>>> variety of tools that others get to choose for us.
>>>
>>> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still
>>> learning how to safely display images.
>>>
>>> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone.
>>>
>>> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the
>>> recurring zoom issues.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
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