We have been using the crap out of it at work, and it does a good job, simple with minimal extras, but sometimes that's what you need. On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:41 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet, giving > free 60min conference calls to folks. Not used it yet, but probably should > try to see the capabilities. > > https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/ > > -mb > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash wrote: > >> > Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI? >> >> Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco >> anymore. >> >> Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure >> out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far >> for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I >> use it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds >> of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same >> shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a >> security audit. >> >> Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for >> years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never >> offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I >> really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other >> quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally. >> >> M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control. >> Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are >> using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux >> client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or >> about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few >> months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft, >> thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software. >> >> GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily no >> one seems to use them anymore. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI? >>> >>> Mac >>> >>> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM: >>> >>> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so: >>> >>> moin moin, >>> >>> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my >>> screen, >>> >>> >>> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some JavaScript, >>> but no completely 3rd party stuff. >>> >>> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex >>> join >>> meeting UI sucks pretty badly. >>> >>> ciao, >>> >>> der.hans >>> >>> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client, >>> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in >>> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing >>> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is >>> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support >>> screen capture on Wayland. >>> >>> >>> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is >>> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a >>> phone. So still using Zoom. >>> Phil W >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> moin moin, >>> >>> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button >>> ( >>> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using >>> a >>> variety of tools that others get to choose for us. >>> >>> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still >>> learning how to safely display images. >>> >>> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone. >>> >>> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/ >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/ >>> >>> >>> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the >>> recurring zoom issues. >>> >>> ciao, >>> >>> der.hans >>> -- >>> # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org >>> # It's up to the reader to make the book interesting. >>> # An author has only the opportunity to make it uninteresting. - >>> der.hans >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> The Maricopa Community Colleges are now operating fully remotely. We >>> hope you are safe and healthy during this time. >>> My in person and hybrid classes are all meeting at the regular times >>> via remote software. Lab and office hours as well. 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