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Author: Phil Waclawski
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Subject: Re: Can you remove the root user from sudoers file on CentOS?
Thank you Kevin, that is what I thought, but Ubuntu has gone to such odd
lengths to try to make you think real root doesn't exist, I wanted to make
sure there wasn't a recent connection made between su and sudo.
Phil W

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:57 PM Kevin Fries <> wrote:

> su and sudo are two different things.
>
> Also, root is simply a moniker for userid 0 by convention.
>
> With SU, to gain elevated privs, you need the root password. And with
> that password, you have all the keys to the kingdom.
>
> SUDO, on the other hand allows granular elevation. So, you can have root
> access to add users, but not start services, or to start and stop services,
> but not view logs.
>
> Also, if you go into /etc/passed, and rename account 0 (zero), from root
> to thegrandguru, su and sudo will elevate your privs, from the user to that
> of thegrandguru. If you create an accout called root, with a userid of
> 1005, root will be just a common user, but thegrandguru is what you
> generally think of as root.
>
> Realize that all this is about getting your privs to that of userid=0
>
> Kevin Fries
>
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> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Harold Hartley <>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think su is short for sudo.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, at 16:02, Phil Waclawski wrote:
>>
>> So, I see the recent major bug with sudo, and on centos (unlike ubuntu
>> flavors) I never use it.
>>
>> Is there a problem with just commenting out the
>>
>> root ALL = ALL(ALL) in the sudoers file?
>>
>> I don't think su is in any way connected to sudoers, but I want to check
>> before I do something stupid.
>>
>> I have done some searching and I can't get an answer about this so far.
>>
>> Phil Waclawski
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