Thank you Kevin, that is what I thought, but Ubuntu has gone to such odd lengths to try to make you think real root doesn't exist, I wanted to make sure there wasn't a recent connection made between su and sudo. Phil W On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 7:57 PM Kevin Fries wrote: > su and sudo are two different things. > > Also, root is simply a moniker for userid 0 by convention. > > With SU, to gain elevated privs, you need the root password. And with > that password, you have all the keys to the kingdom. > > SUDO, on the other hand allows granular elevation. So, you can have root > access to add users, but not start services, or to start and stop services, > but not view logs. > > Also, if you go into /etc/passed, and rename account 0 (zero), from root > to thegrandguru, su and sudo will elevate your privs, from the user to that > of thegrandguru. If you create an accout called root, with a userid of > 1005, root will be just a common user, but thegrandguru is what you > generally think of as root. > > Realize that all this is about getting your privs to that of userid=0 > > Kevin Fries > > Sent from BlueMail > On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Harold Hartley > wrote: >> >> I think su is short for sudo. >> >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, at 16:02, Phil Waclawski wrote: >> >> So, I see the recent major bug with sudo, and on centos (unlike ubuntu >> flavors) I never use it. >> >> Is there a problem with just commenting out the >> >> root ALL = ALL(ALL) in the sudoers file? >> >> I don't think su is in any way connected to sudoers, but I want to check >> before I do something stupid. >> >> I have done some searching and I can't get an answer about this so far. >> >> Phil Waclawski >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> -- >> Harold Hartley >> 17632 N. 5th place >> Phoenix, AZ 85022 >> wheelie207@ownmail.net >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss