Re: Topic split. Arch on laptops.

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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: Topic split. Arch on laptops.
i know using LVM I had to hand-write my hooks to include the lvm components.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:10 PM Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Secureboot is disabled, but uefi is still used. I didn't see another way
> to do it at the time, still don't know if there is a way to keep secureboot
> on fully. Not terribly missed either way.
>
> It's almost like the hooks aren't building into the kernel properly, or
> grub isn't playing ball, but still boots ubuntu and its kernel just fine,
> same with windoze.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:49 PM Stephen Partington <>
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting on both issues. I am assuming you use UEFI and secureboot?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 9:19 PM Michael Butash <> wrote:
>>
>>> The ubuntu issue making me switch with vitriol is somewhat different. I
>>> simply can't switch to another DE now under ubuntu, and I hate what ubuntu
>>> did to gnome3. Any other DE but ubuntu's simply crashes and dumps me back
>>> to login. No idea why, and oddly I can't find much about it from others.
>>> It was merely impetus to evacuate ubuntu further, but like crack I can't
>>> seem to break free.
>>>
>>> I ran 16.04 before on my xps15. Old kernels worked ok with bumblebee,
>>> but sucked at everything else, including my dell thunderbolt/usb3 dock.
>>> I'd get random network timeouts, the usb bus would just sorta die
>>> randomly. Lovely feature, really.
>>>
>>> Upgrading it fixed TB3, but fubar'd bumblebee/gpu interaction, and
>>> powertop just sorta said I was causing planetary doom with consumption all
>>> the time. It worked, but used power like crazy. I'd be lucky to get an
>>> hour of batter life, mostly due to the stupid intel vs. nvidia vs.
>>> bumblebee issues on it. Stable network and function vs. heat - I'll take
>>> it. I was hoping moving to arch they might have fixed some of this
>>> stupidity ubuntu could obviously never figure out.
>>>
>>> Why do I hate 18.04? Other than above gpu issues, I upgrade to find my
>>> right click on the touchpad not working, a distinct lack of a minimize
>>> button on my windows, and various things that simply didn't work out of box
>>> I needed to find workarounds for. Upgrading out of sheer morbid curiosity
>>> to 18.10 didn't fix anything, and in fact made most worse. I just hate
>>> ubuntu now, and would really like to never deal with it again.
>>>
>>> I need to make a decent arch linux vm image I can clone and reuse, as
>>> ubuntu is even more annoying with failed upgrades as a server. I really
>>> hate having to rebuild everything every few years, but it does keep me in
>>> practice.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:00 PM Stephen Partington <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To follow up Mike's Conversation earlier about arch on a laptop I am
>>>> actually curious about the issue you had.
>>>>
>>>> I have had really good success with arch on laptops lately. And with
>>>> the release of Ubuntu 18.04 Ubuntu has been really amenable.
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