RE: GNU/Linux

Linux is the engine, GNU is the toolbox

On Apr 29, 2017 4:23 PM, "Keith Smith" <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:

>
> Interesting... Do programmers burnout more than any other profession?
>
> If there is a contributing factor it is the constant change that requires
> regular learning and adapting.
>
> I've seen a lot of changes. In 1983 I learned how to program using punch
> cards. Then there was the single line editors. I experienced the
> evolution of xBase - dBaseII, dBaseIII, dBaseIII+ on 8088 cpu's with no
> hard drive. Later Clipper summer of 87 (that was the actual version name),
> FoxBASE+, all the FoxPro's - DOS, Windows, and Visual. Then the web came
> along. Learning Linux, Apache, MySql, PHP and all that goes with that. In
> the early days of the web - (10 years ago) it was PHP right on the iron...
> not any more. It is open source apps and frameworks.
>
> Always fighting the beast.....
>
> In the late 80's I happened into a business that was using a Commodore 64
> to do their accounting and inventory control. At that time that was state
> of the art.
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-04-29 13:47, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
>
>> Huh. I thought the reason programmers (or whatever you want to call
>> them) get grey hairs and burn out was some combination of:
>>
>> 1 - they are hopelessly optimistic, and so GROSSLY underestimate EVERY
>> project's effort. Managers like the short estimates and don't adjust
>> based upon reality. When the deadline nears, the software person
>> works more and more hours to try to meet the deadline, which goes
>> whizzing past at a high rate of speed. More hours/week and more
>> effort (which brings with it more mistakes and slower progress)...
>> until the project is finally done (ish) and the next cycle begins.
>>
>> (Well, yes, I was a software developer for most of my professional
>> life, why do you ask? ;-)
>>
>> 2 - they tend to work much more than 40 hours per week. (80, 90,
>> sometimes more)
>>
>> 3 - old age ;-)
>>
>> Rusty
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On
>> Behalf Of IscreamKid
>> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:36 PM
>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> Subject: Re: GNU/Linux
>>
>> Hmmm, technically not quite right.
>>
>> First there was UNIX which split off to BSD.
>> Linus emulated UNIX on a PC.
>> A kernel is the interface between the hardware and the operating system.
>> Each machine with different hardware needs a different kernel to mate
>> with the hardware.
>> Each operating system needs a different interface to match the
>> operating system's requirements / design.
>> Android has totally different hardware platform compared to a PC,
>> compared to a Mac, compared to a DEC, or whatever.
>> If the programmer writes his interface to function like Linux but
>> match each different platform's hardware then you can the Linux OS
>> utilities and such on that hardware platform. They will be the same,
>> functionally, if the programmer fully implements the complete
>> interface.
>> Practically, there is almost always something that is or has to be
>> done differently.
>>
>> That is why programmers get gray hairs and burn out.
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 16:10, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I understand it now.... There is GNU/Linux and there is
>>> Android/Linux and whatever other operating system that needs a
>>> kernel/Linux. Right?
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