Linux is the engine, GNU is the toolbox On Apr 29, 2017 4:23 PM, "Keith Smith" wrote: > > Interesting... Do programmers burnout more than any other profession? > > If there is a contributing factor it is the constant change that requires > regular learning and adapting. > > I've seen a lot of changes. In 1983 I learned how to program using punch > cards. Then there was the single line editors. I experienced the > evolution of xBase - dBaseII, dBaseIII, dBaseIII+ on 8088 cpu's with no > hard drive. Later Clipper summer of 87 (that was the actual version name), > FoxBASE+, all the FoxPro's - DOS, Windows, and Visual. Then the web came > along. Learning Linux, Apache, MySql, PHP and all that goes with that. In > the early days of the web - (10 years ago) it was PHP right on the iron... > not any more. It is open source apps and frameworks. > > Always fighting the beast..... > > In the late 80's I happened into a business that was using a Commodore 64 > to do their accounting and inventory control. At that time that was state > of the art. > > > > > On 2017-04-29 13:47, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > >> Huh. I thought the reason programmers (or whatever you want to call >> them) get grey hairs and burn out was some combination of: >> >> 1 - they are hopelessly optimistic, and so GROSSLY underestimate EVERY >> project's effort. Managers like the short estimates and don't adjust >> based upon reality. When the deadline nears, the software person >> works more and more hours to try to meet the deadline, which goes >> whizzing past at a high rate of speed. More hours/week and more >> effort (which brings with it more mistakes and slower progress)... >> until the project is finally done (ish) and the next cycle begins. >> >> (Well, yes, I was a software developer for most of my professional >> life, why do you ask? ;-) >> >> 2 - they tend to work much more than 40 hours per week. (80, 90, >> sometimes more) >> >> 3 - old age ;-) >> >> Rusty >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On >> Behalf Of IscreamKid >> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 8:36 PM >> To: Main PLUG discussion list >> Subject: Re: GNU/Linux >> >> Hmmm, technically not quite right. >> >> First there was UNIX which split off to BSD. >> Linus emulated UNIX on a PC. >> A kernel is the interface between the hardware and the operating system. >> Each machine with different hardware needs a different kernel to mate >> with the hardware. >> Each operating system needs a different interface to match the >> operating system's requirements / design. >> Android has totally different hardware platform compared to a PC, >> compared to a Mac, compared to a DEC, or whatever. >> If the programmer writes his interface to function like Linux but >> match each different platform's hardware then you can the Linux OS >> utilities and such on that hardware platform. They will be the same, >> functionally, if the programmer fully implements the complete >> interface. >> Practically, there is almost always something that is or has to be >> done differently. >> >> That is why programmers get gray hairs and burn out. >> >> On Apr 28, 2017, at 16:10, Michael wrote: >>> >>> I think I understand it now.... There is GNU/Linux and there is >>> Android/Linux and whatever other operating system that needs a >>> kernel/Linux. Right? >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To >>> subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To >> subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss