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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: drupal or plone
I run ubuntu and I did 'apt-get install fontconfig' and then
'...font<tab><tab>' but to no avail. Then I did the locate and found a
whole mess of fontconfigs on my system so it isn't a matter of installing
the program but rather of getting poppler to see that it is installed.
Could I possibly put a link to one of the existing fontconfig directories
into the poppler directory?

Do you have it. Wikipedia says: 

     *Fontconfig* (or *fontconfig*) is a computer program
library<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_%28computer_science%29>designed
to provide system-wide
font <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_font> configuration,
customization,
     and application access.


So I supose I don't really need it. Especially if it is elsewhere on my
system.
What do you think?


On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Mark Phillips
<>wrote:

> Mike,
>
> As a general rule, if I install an application and it needs something, I
> search the Debian repositories (since I run Debian - your distro may be
> different) for that program before going the compile route. The reason? The
> package in the repository knows where all packages are installed on your
> system, and the package manager will install any other dependencies you
> need.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>
>> root@bt:~# locate fontconfig
>> /etc/defoma/fontconfig.subst-rule
>> /etc/java-6-openjdk/fontconfig.bfc
>> /etc/java-6-openjdk/fontconfig.properties
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.2.0
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/105b9c7e6f0a4f82d8c9b6e39c52c6f9-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/26de28bc8622bbc1fb67fd234c21975f-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/365b55f210c0a22e9a19e35191240f32-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/3830d5c3ddfd5cd38a049b759396e72e-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/401a5dd6b567794a1d18dd9342dfa604-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/515ca1ebc4b18308bea979be5704f9db-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6333f38776742d18e214673cd2c24e34-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6d41288fd70b0be22e8c3a91e032eec0-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6eb3985aa4124903f6ff08ba781cd364-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/707971e003b4ae6c8121c3a920e507f5-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/945677eb7aeaf62f1d50efc3fb3ec7d8-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/a341218890af1fe9ee20256633200406-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/c855463f699352c367813e37f3f70ea7-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/cabbd14511b9e8a55e92af97fb3a0461-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/d52a8644073d54c13679302ca1180695-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/d82eb4fd963d448e2fcb7d7b793b5df3-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e13b20fdb08344e0e664864cc2ede53d-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e383d7ea5fbe662a33d9b44caf393297-x86.cache-2
>>
>> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/fe547fea3a41b43a38975d292a2b19c7-x86.cache-2
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.4.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.4.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.6.0.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.6.0.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.11.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.11.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Sun.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Sun.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Ubuntu.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Ubuntu.properties.src
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.bfc
>> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.8.0.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.8.0.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.9.0.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.9.0.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.2003.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.2003.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.8.0.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.8.0.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.properties.src
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.bfc
>> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.properties.src
>> /usr/bin/fontconfig-voodoo
>> /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
>> /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.4.4
>> /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/fontconfig-2.0.typelib
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/compilefontconfig.jar
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/fontconfig.bfc
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/fontconfig.properties
>> /usr/share/defoma/scripts/fontconfig.defoma
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config
>> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/AUTHORS
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/README.Debian
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/README.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/changelog.Debian.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/changelog.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/copyright
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.pdf.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.txt.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/AUTHORS
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/README.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/changelog.Debian.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/changelog.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/copyright
>> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/AUTHORS
>> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/README.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/changelog.Debian.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/changelog.gz
>> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/copyright
>> /usr/share/doc-base/fontconfig-user
>> /usr/share/gnome/help/system-admin-guide/C/fontconfig.xml
>> /var/cache/fontconfig
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/105b9c7e6f0a4f82d8c9b6e39c52c6f9-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/26de28bc8622bbc1fb67fd234c21975f-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/365b55f210c0a22e9a19e35191240f32-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/3830d5c3ddfd5cd38a049b759396e72e-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/401a5dd6b567794a1d18dd9342dfa604-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/4c599c202bc5c08e2d34565a40eac3b2-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/515ca1ebc4b18308bea979be5704f9db-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/6333f38776742d18e214673cd2c24e34-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/6d41288fd70b0be22e8c3a91e032eec0-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/6eb3985aa4124903f6ff08ba781cd364-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/707971e003b4ae6c8121c3a920e507f5-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/865f88548240fee46819705c6468c165-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/945677eb7aeaf62f1d50efc3fb3ec7d8-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/a341218890af1fe9ee20256633200406-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/c855463f699352c367813e37f3f70ea7-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/cabbd14511b9e8a55e92af97fb3a0461-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/d52a8644073d54c13679302ca1180695-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/d82eb4fd963d448e2fcb7d7b793b5df3-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/e13b20fdb08344e0e664864cc2ede53d-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/e383d7ea5fbe662a33d9b44caf393297-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/cache/fontconfig/fe547fea3a41b43a38975d292a2b19c7-le32d4.cache-3
>> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d
>> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.subst-cache
>> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/fonts.conf
>> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/id-cache
>> /var/lib/defoma/scripts/fontconfig.defoma
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.conffiles
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.md5sums
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.postinst
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.postrm
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.list
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.md5sums
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.postinst
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.postrm
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.preinst
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.prerm
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.triggers
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.list
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.md5sums
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.postinst
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.postrm
>> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.shlibs
>> /var/log/fontconfig.log
>> root@bt:~#
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>>
>>> I installed plone just fine but in the readme one of the recommended
>>> programs is poppler. So I went to their d/l page and loaded it. So I unpack
>>> it and see it needs to be compiled. So I ./configure and it runs through a
>>> bunch of lines and then errors out saying:
>>>
>>>      No package 'fontconfig' found
>>>      Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
>>>      installed software in a non-standard prefix.
>>>      Alternatively, you may set the environment variables
>>> FONTCONFIG_CFLAGS
>>>      and FONTCONFIG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
>>>      See the pkg-config man page for more details.

>>>
>>> Well I just ran updatedb and locate fontconfig and there are a bunch on
>>> the computer. So I suppose this means it is not looking for it. Can I just
>>> copy a file to the poppler folder?
>>>
>>> these are all the instances of fontconfig that exist. on my computer.
>>> should I copy something somewhere?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Mark Phillips <
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not sure if what you are doing is related to installing plone. The
>>>> easiest way to install Plone is to download the unified installer and run
>>>> that....
>>>> http://launchpad.net/plone/4.1/4.1.3/+download/Plone-4.1.3-UnifiedInstaller.tgzor
>>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/4.1.3.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where I got the idea I needed imagemajic but any ways
>>>>> I'm trying to compile poppler. Well, I type in ./configure and I get an
>>>>> error that there is no package 'fontconfig'. Where do I get this package
>>>>> and do I put it in the poppler folder where the config file is. Or maybe I
>>>>> should put it in /usr so it will be available to everyon. What do you
>>>>> think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I
>>>>>> need to download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick
>>>>>> but it seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm
>>>>>> supposed to d/l?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith <>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP
>>>>>>> developers more difficult to work with than python developers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> he ide i NEEDEThat would be an interesting observation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen <>* wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Stephen <>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: drupal or plone
>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly
>>>>>>> folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens <<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion
>>>>>>> of what it
>>>>>>> > has to say:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >      When compared to three other well-known open source CMS
>>>>>>> platforms
>>>>>>> > covered by the
>>>>>>> >      MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> > WordPress and Joomla.[76]

>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What
>>>>>>> is it
>>>>>>> > about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you
>>>>>>> who have
>>>>>>> > used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go
>>>>>>> with?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
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>>>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen
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