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Author: Mark Phillips
Date:  
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: drupal or plone
Mike,

As a general rule, if I install an application and it needs something, I
search the Debian repositories (since I run Debian - your distro may be
different) for that program before going the compile route. The reason? The
package in the repository knows where all packages are installed on your
system, and the package manager will install any other dependencies you
need.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> root@bt:~# locate fontconfig
> /etc/defoma/fontconfig.subst-rule
> /etc/java-6-openjdk/fontconfig.bfc
> /etc/java-6-openjdk/fontconfig.properties
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.2.0
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/105b9c7e6f0a4f82d8c9b6e39c52c6f9-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/26de28bc8622bbc1fb67fd234c21975f-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/365b55f210c0a22e9a19e35191240f32-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/3830d5c3ddfd5cd38a049b759396e72e-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/401a5dd6b567794a1d18dd9342dfa604-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/515ca1ebc4b18308bea979be5704f9db-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6333f38776742d18e214673cd2c24e34-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6d41288fd70b0be22e8c3a91e032eec0-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6eb3985aa4124903f6ff08ba781cd364-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/707971e003b4ae6c8121c3a920e507f5-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/945677eb7aeaf62f1d50efc3fb3ec7d8-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/a341218890af1fe9ee20256633200406-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/c855463f699352c367813e37f3f70ea7-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/cabbd14511b9e8a55e92af97fb3a0461-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/d52a8644073d54c13679302ca1180695-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/d82eb4fd963d448e2fcb7d7b793b5df3-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e13b20fdb08344e0e664864cc2ede53d-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e383d7ea5fbe662a33d9b44caf393297-x86.cache-2
>
> /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/fe547fea3a41b43a38975d292a2b19c7-x86.cache-2
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.4.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.4.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.6.0.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.6.0.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.11.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.11.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Sun.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Sun.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Ubuntu.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Ubuntu.properties.src
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.bfc
> /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.8.0.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.8.0.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.9.0.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.9.0.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.2003.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.2003.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.8.0.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.8.0.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.properties.src
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.bfc
> /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.properties.src
> /usr/bin/fontconfig-voodoo
> /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
> /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.4.4
> /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/fontconfig-2.0.typelib
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/compilefontconfig.jar
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/fontconfig.bfc
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/fontconfig.properties
> /usr/share/defoma/scripts/fontconfig.defoma
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config
> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/AUTHORS
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/README.Debian
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/README.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/changelog.Debian.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/copyright
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.pdf.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.txt.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/AUTHORS
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/README.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/changelog.Debian.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/doc/fontconfig-config/copyright
> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/AUTHORS
> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/README.gz
> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/changelog.Debian.gz
> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/doc/libfontconfig1/copyright
> /usr/share/doc-base/fontconfig-user
> /usr/share/gnome/help/system-admin-guide/C/fontconfig.xml
> /var/cache/fontconfig
> /var/cache/fontconfig/105b9c7e6f0a4f82d8c9b6e39c52c6f9-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/26de28bc8622bbc1fb67fd234c21975f-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/365b55f210c0a22e9a19e35191240f32-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/3830d5c3ddfd5cd38a049b759396e72e-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/401a5dd6b567794a1d18dd9342dfa604-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/4c599c202bc5c08e2d34565a40eac3b2-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/515ca1ebc4b18308bea979be5704f9db-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/6333f38776742d18e214673cd2c24e34-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/6d41288fd70b0be22e8c3a91e032eec0-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/6eb3985aa4124903f6ff08ba781cd364-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/707971e003b4ae6c8121c3a920e507f5-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/865f88548240fee46819705c6468c165-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/945677eb7aeaf62f1d50efc3fb3ec7d8-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/a341218890af1fe9ee20256633200406-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/c855463f699352c367813e37f3f70ea7-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/cabbd14511b9e8a55e92af97fb3a0461-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/d52a8644073d54c13679302ca1180695-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/d82eb4fd963d448e2fcb7d7b793b5df3-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/e13b20fdb08344e0e664864cc2ede53d-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/e383d7ea5fbe662a33d9b44caf393297-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/cache/fontconfig/fe547fea3a41b43a38975d292a2b19c7-le32d4.cache-3
> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d
> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.subst-cache
> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/fonts.conf
> /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/id-cache
> /var/lib/defoma/scripts/fontconfig.defoma
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.conffiles
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.md5sums
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.postinst
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.postrm
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.list
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.md5sums
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.postinst
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.postrm
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.preinst
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.prerm
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig.triggers
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.list
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.md5sums
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.postinst
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.postrm
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libfontconfig1.shlibs
> /var/log/fontconfig.log
> root@bt:~#
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>
>> I installed plone just fine but in the readme one of the recommended
>> programs is poppler. So I went to their d/l page and loaded it. So I unpack
>> it and see it needs to be compiled. So I ./configure and it runs through a
>> bunch of lines and then errors out saying:
>>
>>      No package 'fontconfig' found
>>      Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
>>      installed software in a non-standard prefix.
>>      Alternatively, you may set the environment variables
>> FONTCONFIG_CFLAGS
>>      and FONTCONFIG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
>>      See the pkg-config man page for more details.

>>
>> Well I just ran updatedb and locate fontconfig and there are a bunch on
>> the computer. So I suppose this means it is not looking for it. Can I just
>> copy a file to the poppler folder?
>>
>> these are all the instances of fontconfig that exist. on my computer.
>> should I copy something somewhere?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Mark Phillips <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I am not sure if what you are doing is related to installing plone. The
>>> easiest way to install Plone is to download the unified installer and run
>>> that....
>>> http://launchpad.net/plone/4.1/4.1.3/+download/Plone-4.1.3-UnifiedInstaller.tgzor
>>> http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/4.1.3.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know where I got the idea I needed imagemajic but any ways I'm
>>>> trying to compile poppler. Well, I type in ./configure and I get an error
>>>> that there is no package 'fontconfig'. Where do I get this package and do
>>>> I put it in the poppler folder where the config file is. Or maybe I should
>>>> put it in /usr so it will be available to everyon. What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I
>>>>> need to download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick
>>>>> but it seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm
>>>>> supposed to d/l?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith <>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP
>>>>>> developers more difficult to work with than python developers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he ide i NEEDEThat would be an interesting observation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen <>* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Stephen <>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: drupal or plone
>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly
>>>>>> folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my
>>>>>> personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens <<http://mc/compose?to=bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of
>>>>>> what it
>>>>>> > has to say:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >      When compared to three other well-known open source CMS
>>>>>> platforms
>>>>>> > covered by the
>>>>>> >      MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> > WordPress and Joomla.[76]

>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What
>>>>>> is it
>>>>>> > about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> > used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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