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Author: Erich Newell
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New-Topics: Re: Qs re:InstallFest
Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 10, Issue 55
A few Qs re:InstallFest

1) How many folks do you guys usually set-up at an install fest?
2) Is there decent network connectivity?
3) Are there too many or too few cooks in the kitchen? ;-)

I thought I would roll down and check things out this Saturday, and was
curious about what goes on. 


Cheers,
     Erich


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>    1. Installfest / two hours? (Michael)
>    2. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Darrin Chandler)
>    3. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Alexander Henry)
>    4. Installfest - need switch and network expert (Alexander Henry)
>    5. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Michael)
>    6. DMCA V2 and you (Technomage)
>    7. Re: Windows virus scanner for Samba shares? (Joseph Sinclair)

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:19:54 -0700
> From: Michael <>
> Subject: Installfest / two hours?
> To: Main PLUG discussion list < >
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
> minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box
> but
> it's predecessor does.
> My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 should
> be
> on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I know
> nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she
> hasn't
> gotten back with me yet.
>
> On Monday 24 April 2006 10:36, Alexander Henry wrote:
> > Community event: Phoenix Linux User's Group (PLUG) Installfest.
> >
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >
> > CALENDAR POSTING
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What: Phoenix Linux User's Group (PLUG) Installfest.
> >
> > Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ
> 85283
> > (Baseline Road, just west of I-10 and Pointe Hilton South Mountain,
> south
> > side
> > of Baseline, near Fry's Electronics Tempe).
> >
> > When: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 10:00 a.m. thru 4:00 p.m.
> >
> > RSVP:
> > - Your computer with specs and equipment
> > - What you hope to accomplish and learn by installing Linux
> > - Encouraged to RSVP but not required
> >
> > Who: Anyone who wants to see Linux or run it on their computer.
> > - Volunteers always needed, please e-mail your pledge for time.
> >
> > Installations take over two hours, please arrive within the first few
> > hours.
> >
> >
> >
> > ONE-SENTENCE FORMAT - CALENDAR FORMAT
> >
> > 04/29 (Saturday 10:00am - 4:00pm) Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG)
> > Installfest.
> > Bring your computer, volunteers will install Linux for you to use at
> home.
> > Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ
> > 85283.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SHORT FORMAT - CALENDAR FORMAT - AZIPA/AZTECHLIST/TECHOASIS FORMAT
> >
> > 04/29 (Saturday 10:00am - 4:00pm) Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG)
> > Installfest.
> > Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ
> 85283
> > (Baseline Road, just west of I-10 and Pointe Hilton South Mountain,
> south
> > side
> > of Baseline). The Phoenix Linux User's Group and would like to invite
> you
> > to
> > our monthly Linux Installfest. Bring your PC, Mac, or other for
> one-on-one
> > help to get your machine running Linux, and to learn how to use Linux.
> > RSVP
> > is strongly encouraged to ensure the right volunteers will be available
> > for
> > your needs, but not required. Please RSVP to
> >
> > with the following information: Your computer with specs and equipment
> you
> > wish to run, and what you hope to accomplish and learn by installing
> Linux.
> > Installations take over two hours, please arrive within the first few
> > hours.
> > PLUG: http://plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > LONG/ARTICLE FORMAT
> >
> > (Phoenix, Arizona) -- Saturday, April 29, 2006
> >
> > The Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG) is holding their monthly Linux
> > Installfest
> > Saturday, April 29, from 10:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M . at the University of
> > Advancing
> > Technology (UAT), 2629 W Baseline Tempe, just west of I-10. Free and
> open
> > to
> > the public. Bring your P.C. for free one-on-one help with installing
> > Linux.
> > The Linux Installfest also features demos to view Linux for those
> > considering
> > switching to Linux for home or business use, as well as Knoppix CD's to
> try
> > Linux at home without damaging your PC or files. While no RSVP is
> > required,
> > if you are considering attending, an e-mail to the event coordinator
> > stating
> > your specific interest would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail
> > with "Installfest" in the subject
> line. The
> > PLUG Installfest is held at UAT on the last Saturday of every month.
> >
> > Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus
> > Torvalds
> > with the assistance of developers around the world. Developed under the
> GNU
> > General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available to
> > everyone. Apart from the fact that it's freely distributed, Linux's
> > functionality, adaptability, and robustness has made it the main
> > alternative
> > to proprietary Unix and Microsoft operating systems. IBM,
> Hewlett-Packard
> > and
> > other giants of the computing world have embraced Linux and support its
> > ongoing development. More than a decade after its initial release, Linux
> is
> > being utilized worldwide as a server platform primarily. Its use as a
> home
> > and office desktop operating system is also on the rise. Local computer
>
> > vendor and service provider Red Seven (http://www.redseven.biz/)
> provides
> > computer systems and IT services to the home user and small business.
> > National governments in countries such as China, India, Germany,
> Singapore,
> > Brazil, and many more are adopting Linux as their official operating
> > system in
> > both servers and desktops. Some governments are adopting economic
> policies
> > around a future boom in Linux.
> >
> > The Phoenix Linux User Group is the local Linux user's group (LUG) for
> the
> > Phoenix area. Like any other computer user group, it is populated by
> > hobbyists and computer professionals, and provides a forum for
> discussion.
> > Unlike many other computer user groups, LUGs also provide the same
> > functions
> > as a "regional office" for IBM, Macintosh, Microsoft, or Sun; they have
> the
> > responsibility to train, support, and educate Linux users, coordinate
> Linux
> > consultants, advocate Linux as a computing solution, and serve as
> liaison
> > to
> > local news outlets. Because Linux is Free Software or Open Source
> > software,
> > LUGs are entirely volunteer based. PLUG holds several monthly meetings:
>
> > one
> > in the southwest Phoenix area, one in Glendale, one in Mesa, and one in
> > Tempe.
> > PLUG membership is free and anyone may join. PLUG also welcomes users
> and
> > fans of all Free Software and Open Source Software such as GNU and
> FreeBSD.
> >
> > For more information, see:
> > The Phoenix Linux User's Group website: http://plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Linux Online: http://www.linux.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:40 -0700
> From: Darrin Chandler <>
> Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours?
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
> Message-ID: < >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote:
> > Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
> > minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box
> but
> > it's predecessor does.
>
> Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going,
> or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a
> little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages
> don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet,
> but I can imagine.
>
> > My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003
> should be
> > on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I
> know
> > nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she
> hasn't
> > gotten back with me yet.
>
> There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet
> Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one
> to him.
>
> --
> Darrin Chandler            |  Phoenix BSD Users Group
>    |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
> http://www.stilyagin.com/  |

>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:44:15 -0700
> From: "Alexander Henry" < >
> Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours?
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
>         < >
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1

>
> Right, you don't boot them out the door the second you have a login prompt
>
> :)
>
> Also, we've had people show up at 4:30:
> - uh can I get a dual boot on my laptop?
> - Have you defragged?
> - no, why?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:40 -0700, Darrin Chandler
> < > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote:
> >> Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
> >> minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box
>
> >> but
> >> it's predecessor does.
> >
> > Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going,
> > or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a
> > little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages
> > don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet,
> > but I can imagine.
> >
> >> My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003
> >> should be
> >> on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I
> >> know
> >> nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she
> >> hasn't
> >> gotten back with me yet.
> >
> > There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet
> > Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one
> > to him.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexander
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:49:05 -0700
> From: "Alexander Henry" < >
> Subject: Installfest - need switch and network expert
> To: ""
>         < >
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1

>
> Eric Bixby won't make it to Installfest. He's instrumental in
> installation network snaggs, plus he brings the big network switch. We
> need either:
>
> - a substitue switch.
> - a pickup of his switch.
> - UAT to provide us with junk
>
> He works in downtown Phoenix, and lives in North Phoenix. I live in
> Gilbert, Dennis busses himself from Tempe to everywhere, etc, etc.
>
> We also need a general nethack and wireless network card installer.
>
> I have a spare 4-port hub of my own, but 4 is never enough.
>
> --
> Alexander
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:57:09 -0700
> From: Michael < >
> Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours?
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
> Message-ID: < >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> They removed the d/l from the mirrors! Would you suggest (i figured this
> out
> all an my lonesome):
>
>         mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom;dd if=/mnt/cdrom
>         of=<desired file>;tar czf mepis.2003.10.2;umout /mnt/cdrom

>
> or should I not 'z' because it is zipped in it's current state?
>
> Currently, sometimes when I am installing the OS it hangs and I need to
> turn
> everything off and restart. I am thiking this is because of the scrapes on
> the CD but I am unsure of that. I will need to upload the copy because
> k3b
> doesn't seem to work. I tried installing the current version but I am
> afraid
> that after upgrading everything else the system will be broken! I looked
> for
> a command line program but 'aproppos burn' returned no positive results.
> OH-HOOOOOO! 'aproppos cd' gave me a positive or two: cdrecord and readcd.
> inspecting the man poage seems to reveal that cdrecord doesn't do what I
> need
> it to while 'readcd' shows that perhaps the 'clone' option would work.
> YIPEE!
> That program will work! Okay, I need to employ 'mkisofs' first. Then I
> enter
>
>      readcd dev=2,0 f=<iso file name>

>
> but this is for writing to a dvd-ram. What would i enter for writing to a
> plain 'ol cd burner?
>
>
> On Tuesday 25 April 2006 19:39, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote:
> > > Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like
> 30
> > > minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run
> out-of-the-box
> > > but it's predecessor does.
> >
> > Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going,
> > or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a
> > little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages
> > don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet,
> > but I can imagine.
> >
> > > My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003
> > > should be on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my
> > > friends (I know nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to
> come
> > > down.... she hasn't gotten back with me yet.
> >
> > There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet
> > Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one
> > to him.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:10:40 -0700
> From: Technomage < >
> Subject: DMCA V2 and you
> To:
> Message-ID: < >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Below was typed by a friend of mine who has quite the knack for seeing
> trends
> detrimental to the rest of us. heeding his words is highly advisable.
>
> I suggest further that folks spread this as widely as possible (IOW, tell
> your
> friends, co-workers, etc. TELL ANYBODY who will listen!!!).
>
>
> TMH
>
> ************ from appleseed3 ************
>
> It will be known as the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2006. Read
> more here. ( http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060424-6660.html)
>
> The bottom line is, if this passes, you have no more "Fair use" rights at
> all.
> It's so serious in fact, that it would be hard not to be guilty of
> breaking
> this proposed law if you own any sort of media content. (read the article)
> This means your poor parents, or you will be going away for 10 years! per
> infraction. You like to "rip a DVD" to your laptop to save your battery
> life
> on a trip? Under this new legislation you'll be a criminal, and by their
> reasoning a "terrorist" too? If you're too young, they take your parents
> away
> in your place.
>
> This is no longer a wait, and see, if the RIAA/MPAA gets their laws thrown
> out
> for abuse. They're making their new laws even more hostile to consumers.
>
> I suggest a mass boycott (wikipedia) of all "Big Content" when this new
> law
> passes onto the books. Cancel your Cable TV, and Satellite. Tell them why
> when you cancel your service! Call up the anime redistributors, and make
> them
> understand that you'll buy no more anime. Tell them about the DMCAv2. Tell
> your friends, and their families. We buy no more DVDs, CDs, or anything
> while
> this law is on the books. If it stays on the books donate ALL of your DVDs
> to
> the MPAA, and ALL of your CDs to the RIAA. Even owning them puts your
> whole
> family at risk.TEN years in prison is not worth your latest episode of Inu
>
> Yasha.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:24:35 -0700
> From: Joseph Sinclair <>
> Subject: Re: Windows virus scanner for Samba shares?
> To: Main PLUG discussion list <>
> Message-ID: < >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Disclosure: I am the Software Architect/IT Director/Principal Engineer for
> the company that produces the software described below, so I have a very
> definite conflict-of-interest.
>
> I can't help with the Samba scanning, yet, but I can help with the other
> part of your post.
>
> If you're looking for a Windows Anti-Virus (full spectrum anti-malware,
> actually), that can share updates (so you don't have to download them over
> the net for each machine), and can be managed easily from a common console,
> then you should look into Secure Resolutions Anti-CyberCrime (also called
> Secure Resolutions Managed Security and Secure Resolutions Anti-Virus, the
> marketing types wanted different names for different markets, they're all
> the same code, however) I'll call the software SR for short.
>
> SR provides a manged agent that offers a Distributed Server (so the
> machines running it can share updates among themselves within a subnet), a
> single web-based console for managing all of the machines installed under a
> single account, automated reporting to the web console, and fully automated
> hands-off updates for all registered clients. There is also a
> push-installer (so you can install machines without having to physically
> touch them), and a packaged installer you can run via user login scripts.
>
> SR is a very good solution for a small-medium business looking for a
> solution to ease the IT load for managing anti-malware (anti-virus,
> anti-spyware, etc...). They're a local company based in Mesa, and the tech
> support is very responsive.
>
> I won't claim it's the best A/V solution out there (at the moment), but it
> has a feature set that's particularly, and uniquely, valuable to small and
> medium business environments, and the software has some really major
> improvements planned over the next 8-10 months that will make it even more
> attractive, and current users always get all available program updates,
> automatically, as soon as they're released.
>
> ==Joseph++
>
> Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> > Any of you run a Windows virus scanner on your Linux box to scan Samba
> > shares?
> >
> > If so, what do you use? Do you have commercial updates and costs?
> >
> > I see clamav, F-Prot Antivirus, commercial uvscan. And I am currently
> > doing research. I have worked with some antivirus solutions for email
> > filtering. But in this case, I need to scan directories of files, which
> > will also probably involve extracting archives.
> >
> > In addition to running anti-virus on the Linux file server, now an
> > off-topic/Windows question: any suggestions for anti-virus software to
> > install on the Windows Xp and 2000 machines themselves? My customer is
> > using some version of Symantec Norton antivirus.
> >
> > I'd like to be able to setup the Windows boxes to share the same
> > downloaded signature (keep on the Linux samba server). What small office
>
> > solutions do you use?
> >
> > Jeremy C. Reed
> >
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