A few Qs re:InstallFest 1) How many folks do you guys usually set-up at an install fest? 2) Is there decent network connectivity? 3) Are there too many or too few cooks in the kitchen? ;-) I thought I would roll down and check things out this Saturday, and was curious about what goes on. Cheers, Erich On 4/25/06, plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us < plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> wrote: > > Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-owner@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Installfest / two hours? (Michael) > 2. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Darrin Chandler) > 3. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Alexander Henry) > 4. Installfest - need switch and network expert (Alexander Henry) > 5. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Michael) > 6. DMCA V2 and you (Technomage) > 7. Re: Windows virus scanner for Samba shares? (Joseph Sinclair) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:19:54 -0700 > From: Michael > Subject: Installfest / two hours? > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <200604251819.54964.bmike101@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30 > minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box > but > it's predecessor does. > My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 should > be > on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I know > nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she > hasn't > gotten back with me yet. > > On Monday 24 April 2006 10:36, Alexander Henry wrote: > > Community event: Phoenix Linux User's Group (PLUG) Installfest. > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > > > CALENDAR POSTING > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What: Phoenix Linux User's Group (PLUG) Installfest. > > > > Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ > 85283 > > (Baseline Road, just west of I-10 and Pointe Hilton South Mountain, > south > > side > > of Baseline, near Fry's Electronics Tempe). > > > > When: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 10:00 a.m. thru 4:00 p.m. > > > > RSVP: InstallFest@PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > - Your computer with specs and equipment > > - What you hope to accomplish and learn by installing Linux > > - Encouraged to RSVP but not required > > > > Who: Anyone who wants to see Linux or run it on their computer. > > - Volunteers always needed, please e-mail your pledge for time. > > > > Installations take over two hours, please arrive within the first few > > hours. > > > > > > > > ONE-SENTENCE FORMAT - CALENDAR FORMAT > > > > 04/29 (Saturday 10:00am - 4:00pm) Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG) > > Installfest. > > Bring your computer, volunteers will install Linux for you to use at > home. > > Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ > > 85283. > > > > > > > > > > SHORT FORMAT - CALENDAR FORMAT - AZIPA/AZTECHLIST/TECHOASIS FORMAT > > > > 04/29 (Saturday 10:00am - 4:00pm) Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG) > > Installfest. > > Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ > 85283 > > (Baseline Road, just west of I-10 and Pointe Hilton South Mountain, > south > > side > > of Baseline). The Phoenix Linux User's Group and would like to invite > you > > to > > our monthly Linux Installfest. Bring your PC, Mac, or other for > one-on-one > > help to get your machine running Linux, and to learn how to use Linux. > > RSVP > > is strongly encouraged to ensure the right volunteers will be available > > for > > your needs, but not required. Please RSVP to > > InstallFest@PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > with the following information: Your computer with specs and equipment > you > > wish to run, and what you hope to accomplish and learn by installing > Linux. > > Installations take over two hours, please arrive within the first few > > hours. > > PLUG: http://plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > > > > > > LONG/ARTICLE FORMAT > > > > (Phoenix, Arizona) -- Saturday, April 29, 2006 > > > > The Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG) is holding their monthly Linux > > Installfest > > Saturday, April 29, from 10:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M . at the University of > > Advancing > > Technology (UAT), 2629 W Baseline Tempe, just west of I-10. Free and > open > > to > > the public. Bring your P.C. for free one-on-one help with installing > > Linux. > > The Linux Installfest also features demos to view Linux for those > > considering > > switching to Linux for home or business use, as well as Knoppix CD's to > try > > Linux at home without damaging your PC or files. While no RSVP is > > required, > > if you are considering attending, an e-mail to the event coordinator > > stating > > your specific interest would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail > > InstallFest@PLUG.phoenix.az.us with "Installfest" in the subject > line. The > > PLUG Installfest is held at UAT on the last Saturday of every month. > > > > Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus > > Torvalds > > with the assistance of developers around the world. Developed under the > GNU > > General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available to > > everyone. Apart from the fact that it's freely distributed, Linux's > > functionality, adaptability, and robustness has made it the main > > alternative > > to proprietary Unix and Microsoft operating systems. IBM, > Hewlett-Packard > > and > > other giants of the computing world have embraced Linux and support its > > ongoing development. More than a decade after its initial release, Linux > is > > being utilized worldwide as a server platform primarily. Its use as a > home > > and office desktop operating system is also on the rise. Local computer > > > vendor and service provider Red Seven (http://www.redseven.biz/) > provides > > computer systems and IT services to the home user and small business. > > National governments in countries such as China, India, Germany, > Singapore, > > Brazil, and many more are adopting Linux as their official operating > > system in > > both servers and desktops. Some governments are adopting economic > policies > > around a future boom in Linux. > > > > The Phoenix Linux User Group is the local Linux user's group (LUG) for > the > > Phoenix area. Like any other computer user group, it is populated by > > hobbyists and computer professionals, and provides a forum for > discussion. > > Unlike many other computer user groups, LUGs also provide the same > > functions > > as a "regional office" for IBM, Macintosh, Microsoft, or Sun; they have > the > > responsibility to train, support, and educate Linux users, coordinate > Linux > > consultants, advocate Linux as a computing solution, and serve as > liaison > > to > > local news outlets. Because Linux is Free Software or Open Source > > software, > > LUGs are entirely volunteer based. PLUG holds several monthly meetings: > > > one > > in the southwest Phoenix area, one in Glendale, one in Mesa, and one in > > Tempe. > > PLUG membership is free and anyone may join. PLUG also welcomes users > and > > fans of all Free Software and Open Source Software such as GNU and > FreeBSD. > > > > For more information, see: > > The Phoenix Linux User's Group website: http://plug.phoenix.az.us > > Linux Online: http://www.linux.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:40 -0700 > From: Darrin Chandler > Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours? > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <20060426023940.GD3273@jeeves.stilyagin.local > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote: > > Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30 > > minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box > but > > it's predecessor does. > > Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going, > or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a > little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages > don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet, > but I can imagine. > > > My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 > should be > > on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I > know > > nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she > hasn't > > gotten back with me yet. > > There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet > Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one > to him. > > -- > Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group > dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ > http://www.stilyagin.com/ | > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:44:15 -0700 > From: "Alexander Henry" < alexanderhenry@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours? > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Right, you don't boot them out the door the second you have a login prompt > > :) > > Also, we've had people show up at 4:30: > - uh can I get a dual boot on my laptop? > - Have you defragged? > - no, why? > > > > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:40 -0700, Darrin Chandler > < dwchandler@stilyagin.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote: > >> Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30 > >> minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box > > >> but > >> it's predecessor does. > > > > Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going, > > or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a > > little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages > > don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet, > > but I can imagine. > > > >> My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 > >> should be > >> on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I > >> know > >> nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she > >> hasn't > >> gotten back with me yet. > > > > There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet > > Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one > > to him. > > > > > > -- > Alexander > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:49:05 -0700 > From: "Alexander Henry" < alexanderhenry@cox.net> > Subject: Installfest - need switch and network expert > To: "plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us" > < plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Eric Bixby won't make it to Installfest. He's instrumental in > installation network snaggs, plus he brings the big network switch. We > need either: > > - a substitue switch. > - a pickup of his switch. > - UAT to provide us with junk > > He works in downtown Phoenix, and lives in North Phoenix. I live in > Gilbert, Dennis busses himself from Tempe to everywhere, etc, etc. > > We also need a general nethack and wireless network card installer. > > I have a spare 4-port hub of my own, but 4 is never enough. > > -- > Alexander > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:57:09 -0700 > From: Michael < bmike101@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours? > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: < 200604252057.09269.bmike101@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > They removed the d/l from the mirrors! Would you suggest (i figured this > out > all an my lonesome): > > mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom;dd if=/mnt/cdrom > of=;tar czf mepis.2003.10.2;umout /mnt/cdrom > > or should I not 'z' because it is zipped in it's current state? > > Currently, sometimes when I am installing the OS it hangs and I need to > turn > everything off and restart. I am thiking this is because of the scrapes on > the CD but I am unsure of that. I will need to upload the copy because > k3b > doesn't seem to work. I tried installing the current version but I am > afraid > that after upgrading everything else the system will be broken! I looked > for > a command line program but 'aproppos burn' returned no positive results. > OH-HOOOOOO! 'aproppos cd' gave me a positive or two: cdrecord and readcd. > inspecting the man poage seems to reveal that cdrecord doesn't do what I > need > it to while 'readcd' shows that perhaps the 'clone' option would work. > YIPEE! > That program will work! Okay, I need to employ 'mkisofs' first. Then I > enter > > readcd dev=2,0 f= > > but this is for writing to a dvd-ram. What would i enter for writing to a > plain 'ol cd burner? > > > On Tuesday 25 April 2006 19:39, Darrin Chandler wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote: > > > Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like > 30 > > > minutes including config time. Simply Mepis doesn't run > out-of-the-box > > > but it's predecessor does. > > > > Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going, > > or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a > > little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages > > don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet, > > but I can imagine. > > > > > My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 > > > should be on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my > > > friends (I know nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to > come > > > down.... she hasn't gotten back with me yet. > > > > There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet > > Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one > > to him. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:10:40 -0700 > From: Technomage < technomage-hawke@cox.net> > Subject: DMCA V2 and you > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Message-ID: < 200604252210.40416.technomage-hawke@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Below was typed by a friend of mine who has quite the knack for seeing > trends > detrimental to the rest of us. heeding his words is highly advisable. > > I suggest further that folks spread this as widely as possible (IOW, tell > your > friends, co-workers, etc. TELL ANYBODY who will listen!!!). > > > TMH > > ************ from appleseed3 ************ > > It will be known as the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2006. Read > more here. ( http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060424-6660.html) > > The bottom line is, if this passes, you have no more "Fair use" rights at > all. > It's so serious in fact, that it would be hard not to be guilty of > breaking > this proposed law if you own any sort of media content. (read the article) > This means your poor parents, or you will be going away for 10 years! per > infraction. You like to "rip a DVD" to your laptop to save your battery > life > on a trip? Under this new legislation you'll be a criminal, and by their > reasoning a "terrorist" too? If you're too young, they take your parents > away > in your place. > > This is no longer a wait, and see, if the RIAA/MPAA gets their laws thrown > out > for abuse. They're making their new laws even more hostile to consumers. > > I suggest a mass boycott (wikipedia) of all "Big Content" when this new > law > passes onto the books. Cancel your Cable TV, and Satellite. Tell them why > when you cancel your service! Call up the anime redistributors, and make > them > understand that you'll buy no more anime. Tell them about the DMCAv2. Tell > your friends, and their families. We buy no more DVDs, CDs, or anything > while > this law is on the books. If it stays on the books donate ALL of your DVDs > to > the MPAA, and ALL of your CDs to the RIAA. Even owning them puts your > whole > family at risk.TEN years in prison is not worth your latest episode of Inu > > Yasha. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:24:35 -0700 > From: Joseph Sinclair > Subject: Re: Windows virus scanner for Samba shares? > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <444F0413.5070707@stcaz.net > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Disclosure: I am the Software Architect/IT Director/Principal Engineer for > the company that produces the software described below, so I have a very > definite conflict-of-interest. > > I can't help with the Samba scanning, yet, but I can help with the other > part of your post. > > If you're looking for a Windows Anti-Virus (full spectrum anti-malware, > actually), that can share updates (so you don't have to download them over > the net for each machine), and can be managed easily from a common console, > then you should look into Secure Resolutions Anti-CyberCrime (also called > Secure Resolutions Managed Security and Secure Resolutions Anti-Virus, the > marketing types wanted different names for different markets, they're all > the same code, however) I'll call the software SR for short. > > SR provides a manged agent that offers a Distributed Server (so the > machines running it can share updates among themselves within a subnet), a > single web-based console for managing all of the machines installed under a > single account, automated reporting to the web console, and fully automated > hands-off updates for all registered clients. There is also a > push-installer (so you can install machines without having to physically > touch them), and a packaged installer you can run via user login scripts. > > SR is a very good solution for a small-medium business looking for a > solution to ease the IT load for managing anti-malware (anti-virus, > anti-spyware, etc...). They're a local company based in Mesa, and the tech > support is very responsive. > > I won't claim it's the best A/V solution out there (at the moment), but it > has a feature set that's particularly, and uniquely, valuable to small and > medium business environments, and the software has some really major > improvements planned over the next 8-10 months that will make it even more > attractive, and current users always get all available program updates, > automatically, as soon as they're released. > > ==Joseph++ > > Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > Any of you run a Windows virus scanner on your Linux box to scan Samba > > shares? > > > > If so, what do you use? Do you have commercial updates and costs? > > > > I see clamav, F-Prot Antivirus, commercial uvscan. And I am currently > > doing research. I have worked with some antivirus solutions for email > > filtering. But in this case, I need to scan directories of files, which > > will also probably involve extracting archives. > > > > In addition to running anti-virus on the Linux file server, now an > > off-topic/Windows question: any suggestions for anti-virus software to > > install on the Windows Xp and 2000 machines themselves? My customer is > > using some version of Symantec Norton antivirus. > > > > I'd like to be able to setup the Windows boxes to share the same > > downloaded signature (keep on the Linux samba server). What small office > > > solutions do you use? > > > > Jeremy C. 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