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Today's Topics:

   1. Installfest / two hours? (Michael)
   2. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Darrin Chandler)
   3. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Alexander Henry)
   4. Installfest - need switch and network expert (Alexander Henry)
   5. Re: Installfest / two hours? (Michael)
   6. DMCA V2 and you (Technomage)
   7. Re: Windows virus scanner for Samba shares? (Joseph Sinclair)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:19:54 -0700
From: Michael <bmike101@cox.net>
Subject: Installfest / two hours?
To: Main PLUG discussion list < plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >
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Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
minutes including config time.  Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box but
it's predecessor does.
My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 should be
on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I know
nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she hasn't
gotten back with me yet.

On Monday 24 April 2006 10:36, Alexander Henry wrote:
> Community event: Phoenix Linux User's Group (PLUG) Installfest.
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
> CALENDAR POSTING
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What: Phoenix Linux User's Group (PLUG) Installfest.
>
> Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ 85283
> (Baseline Road, just west of I-10 and Pointe Hilton South Mountain, south
> side
> of Baseline, near Fry's Electronics Tempe).
>
> When: Saturday, April 29, 2006, 10:00 a.m. thru 4:00 p.m.
>
> RSVP: InstallFest@PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>   - Your computer with specs and equipment
>   - What you hope to accomplish and learn by installing Linux
>   - Encouraged to RSVP but not required
>
> Who: Anyone who wants to see Linux or run it on their computer.
>   - Volunteers always needed, please e-mail your pledge for time.
>
> Installations take over two hours, please arrive within the first few
> hours.
>
>
>
> ONE-SENTENCE FORMAT - CALENDAR FORMAT
>
> 04/29 (Saturday 10:00am - 4:00pm) Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG)
> Installfest.
> Bring your computer, volunteers will install Linux for you to use at home.
> Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ
> 85283.
>
>
>
>
> SHORT FORMAT - CALENDAR FORMAT - AZIPA/AZTECHLIST/TECHOASIS FORMAT
>
> 04/29 (Saturday 10:00am - 4:00pm) Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG)
> Installfest.
> Where: University of Advancing Technology: 2629 W. Baseline Tempe, AZ 85283
> (Baseline Road, just west of I-10 and Pointe Hilton South Mountain, south
> side
> of Baseline).  The Phoenix Linux User's Group and would like to invite you
> to
> our monthly Linux Installfest.  Bring your PC, Mac, or other for one-on-one
> help to get your machine running Linux, and to learn how to use Linux.
> RSVP
> is strongly  encouraged to ensure the right volunteers will be available
> for
> your needs, but not required.  Please RSVP to
> InstallFest@PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> with the following information: Your computer with specs and equipment you
> wish to run, and what you hope to accomplish and learn by installing Linux.
> Installations take over two hours, please arrive within the first few
> hours.
> PLUG: http://plug.phoenix.az.us
>
>
>
>
> LONG/ARTICLE FORMAT
>
> (Phoenix, Arizona) -- Saturday, April 29, 2006
>
> The Phoenix Linux User Group (PLUG) is holding their monthly Linux
> Installfest
> Saturday, April 29, from 10:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M . at the University of
> Advancing
> Technology (UAT), 2629 W Baseline Tempe, just west of I-10.  Free and open
> to
> the public.  Bring your P.C. for free one-on-one help with installing
> Linux.
> The Linux Installfest also features demos to view Linux for those
> considering
> switching to Linux for home or business use, as well as Knoppix CD's to try
> Linux at home without damaging your PC or files.  While no RSVP is
> required,
> if you are considering attending, an e-mail to the event coordinator
> stating
> your specific interest would be greatly appreciated.  Please e-mail
> InstallFest@PLUG.phoenix.az.us with "Installfest" in the subject line.  The
> PLUG Installfest is held at UAT on the last Saturday of every month.
>
> Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus
> Torvalds
> with the assistance of developers around the world. Developed under the GNU
> General Public License, the source code for Linux is freely available to
> everyone.  Apart from the fact that it's freely distributed, Linux's
> functionality, adaptability, and robustness has made it the main
> alternative
> to proprietary Unix and Microsoft operating systems.  IBM, Hewlett-Packard
> and
> other giants of the computing world have embraced Linux and support its
> ongoing development. More than a decade after its initial release, Linux is
> being utilized worldwide as a server platform primarily.  Its use as a home
> and office desktop operating system is also on the rise.  Local computer
> vendor and service provider Red Seven (http://www.redseven.biz/) provides
> computer systems and IT services to the home user and small business.
> National governments in countries such as China, India, Germany, Singapore,
> Brazil, and many more are adopting Linux as their official operating
> system in
> both servers and desktops.  Some governments are adopting economic policies
> around a future boom in Linux.
>
> The Phoenix Linux User Group is the local Linux user's group (LUG) for the
> Phoenix area.  Like any other computer user group, it is populated by
> hobbyists and computer professionals, and provides a forum for discussion.
> Unlike many other computer user groups, LUGs also provide the same
> functions
> as a "regional office" for IBM, Macintosh, Microsoft, or Sun; they have the
> responsibility to train, support, and educate Linux users, coordinate Linux
> consultants, advocate Linux as a computing solution, and serve as liaison
> to
> local news outlets.  Because Linux is Free Software or Open Source
> software,
> LUGs are entirely volunteer based.  PLUG holds several monthly meetings:
> one
> in the southwest Phoenix area, one in Glendale, one in Mesa, and one in
> Tempe.
> PLUG membership is free and anyone may join.  PLUG also welcomes users and
> fans of all Free Software and Open Source Software such as GNU and FreeBSD.
>
> For more information, see:
> The Phoenix Linux User's Group website: http://plug.phoenix.az.us
> Linux Online: http://www.linux.org

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:40 -0700
From: Darrin Chandler < dwchandler@stilyagin.com>
Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours?
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote:
> Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
> minutes including config time.  Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box but
> it's predecessor does.

Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going,
or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a
little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages
don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet,
but I can imagine.

> My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003 should be
> on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I know
> nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she hasn't
> gotten back with me yet.

There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet
Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one
to him.

--
Darrin Chandler            |  Phoenix BSD Users Group
dwchandler@stilyagin.com    |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:44:15 -0700
From: "Alexander Henry" < alexanderhenry@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours?
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Right, you don't boot them out the door the second you have a login prompt
:)

Also, we've had people show up at 4:30:
- uh can I get a dual boot on my laptop?
- Have you defragged?
- no, why?

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:40 -0700, Darrin Chandler
< dwchandler@stilyagin.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote:
>> Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
>> minutes including config time.  Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box
>> but
>> it's predecessor does.
>
> Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going,
> or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a
> little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages
> don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet,
> but I can imagine.
>
>> My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003
>> should be
>> on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my friends (I
>> know
>> nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come down.... she
>> hasn't
>> gotten back with me yet.
>
> There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet
> Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one
> to him.
>

--
Alexander

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:49:05 -0700
From: "Alexander Henry" < alexanderhenry@cox.net>
Subject: Installfest - need switch and network expert
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Eric Bixby won't make it to Installfest.  He's instrumental in
installation network snaggs, plus he brings the big network switch.  We
need either:

- a substitue switch.
- a pickup of his switch.
- UAT to provide us with junk

He works in downtown Phoenix, and lives in North Phoenix.  I live in
Gilbert, Dennis busses himself from Tempe to everywhere, etc, etc.

We also need a general nethack and wireless network card installer.

I have a spare 4-port hub of my own, but 4 is never enough.

--
Alexander

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:57:09 -0700
From: Michael < bmike101@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Installfest / two hours?
To: Main PLUG discussion list < plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Message-ID: < 200604252057.09269.bmike101@cox.net>
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They removed the d/l from the mirrors! Would you suggest (i figured this out
all an my lonesome):

        mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom;dd if=/mnt/cdrom
        of=<desired file>;tar czf mepis.2003.10.2;umout /mnt/cdrom

or should I not 'z' because it is zipped in it's current state?

Currently, sometimes when I am installing the OS it hangs and I need to turn
everything off and restart. I am thiking this is because of the scrapes on
the CD but I am unsure of that.  I will need to upload the copy because k3b
doesn't seem to work. I tried installing the current version but I am afraid
that after upgrading everything else the system will be broken! I looked for
a command line program but 'aproppos burn' returned no positive results.
OH-HOOOOOO! 'aproppos cd' gave me a positive or two: cdrecord and readcd.
inspecting the man poage seems to reveal that cdrecord doesn't do what I need
it to while 'readcd' shows that perhaps the 'clone' option would work. YIPEE!
That program will work! Okay, I need to employ 'mkisofs' first. Then I enter

     readcd dev=2,0 f=<iso file name>

but this is for writing to a dvd-ram. What would i enter for writing to a
plain 'ol cd burner?

On Tuesday 25 April 2006 19:39, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:19:54PM -0700, Michael wrote:
> > Over two hours per installation? Mepis 2003.10.02 only takes me like 30
> > minutes including config time.  Simply Mepis doesn't run out-of-the-box
> > but it's predecessor does.
>
> Tell someone 30 minutes and then you'd run into a snag getting X going,
> or something. If someone needs help doing an install, they might like a
> little walkthrough as well. Then there's loading up whatever packages
> don't come with the base install. I haven't been to an installfest yet,
> but I can imagine.
>
> > My machine is circa 1997. (home grown baby!) Perhaps a copy of 2003
> > should be on hand for ancient machines! I'm trying to get one of my
> > friends (I know nothing about her machine except that it is slow) to come
> > down.... she hasn't gotten back with me yet.
>
> There are several distros that are still good for older hardware. I bet
> Dennis wouldn't mind having a 2003 Mepis handy, if you were to offer one
> to him.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:10:40 -0700
From: Technomage < technomage-hawke@cox.net>
Subject: DMCA V2 and you
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Message-ID: < 200604252210.40416.technomage-hawke@cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Below was typed by a friend of mine who has quite the knack for seeing trends
detrimental to the rest of us. heeding his words is highly advisable.

I suggest further that folks spread this as widely as possible (IOW, tell your
friends, co-workers, etc. TELL ANYBODY who will listen!!!).

TMH

************ from appleseed3 ************

It will be known as the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2006. Read
more here. ( http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060424-6660.html)

The bottom line is, if this passes, you have no more "Fair use" rights at all.
It's so serious in fact, that it would be hard not to be guilty of breaking
this proposed law if you own any sort of media content. (read the article)
This means your poor parents, or you will be going away for 10 years! per
infraction. You like to "rip a DVD" to your laptop to save your battery life
on a trip? Under this new legislation you'll be a criminal, and by their
reasoning a "terrorist" too? If you're too young, they take your parents away
in your place.

This is no longer a wait, and see, if the RIAA/MPAA gets their laws thrown out
for abuse. They're making their new laws even more hostile to consumers.

I suggest a mass boycott (wikipedia) of all "Big Content" when this new law
passes onto the books. Cancel your Cable TV, and Satellite. Tell them why
when you cancel your service! Call up the anime redistributors, and make them
understand that you'll buy no more anime. Tell them about the DMCAv2. Tell
your friends, and their families. We buy no more DVDs, CDs, or anything while
this law is on the books. If it stays on the books donate ALL of your DVDs to
the MPAA, and ALL of your CDs to the RIAA. Even owning them puts your whole
family at risk.TEN years in prison is not worth your latest episode of Inu
Yasha.

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:24:35 -0700
From: Joseph Sinclair < plug-discuss@stcaz.net>
Subject: Re: Windows virus scanner for Samba shares?
To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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Disclosure: I am the Software Architect/IT Director/Principal Engineer for the company that produces the software described below, so I have a very definite conflict-of-interest.

I can't help with the Samba scanning, yet, but I can help with the other part of your post.

If you're looking for a Windows Anti-Virus (full spectrum anti-malware, actually), that can share updates (so you don't have to download them over the net for each machine), and can be managed easily from a common console, then you should look into Secure Resolutions Anti-CyberCrime (also called Secure Resolutions Managed Security and Secure Resolutions Anti-Virus, the marketing types wanted different names for different markets, they're all the same code, however) I'll call the software SR for short.

SR provides a manged agent that offers a Distributed Server (so the machines running it can share updates among themselves within a subnet), a single web-based console for managing all of the machines installed under a single account, automated reporting to the web console, and fully automated hands-off updates for all registered clients.  There is also a push-installer (so you can install machines without having to physically touch them), and a packaged installer you can run via user login scripts.

SR is a very good solution for a small-medium business looking for a solution to ease the IT load for managing anti-malware (anti-virus, anti-spyware, etc...).  They're a local company based in Mesa, and the tech support is very responsive.

I won't claim it's the best A/V solution out there (at the moment), but it has a feature set that's particularly, and uniquely, valuable to small and medium business environments, and the software has some really major improvements planned over the next 8-10 months that will make it even more attractive, and current users always get all available program updates, automatically, as soon as they're released.

==Joseph++

Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> Any of you run a Windows virus scanner on your Linux box to scan Samba
> shares?
>
> If so, what do you use? Do you have commercial updates and costs?
>
> I see clamav, F-Prot Antivirus, commercial uvscan. And I am currently
> doing research. I have worked with some antivirus solutions for email
> filtering. But in this case, I need to scan directories of files, which
> will also probably involve extracting archives.
>
> In addition to running anti-virus on the Linux file server, now an
> off-topic/Windows question: any suggestions for anti-virus software to
> install on the Windows Xp and 2000 machines themselves? My customer is
> using some version of Symantec Norton antivirus.
>
> I'd like to be able to setup the Windows boxes to share the same
> downloaded signature (keep on the Linux samba server). What small office
> solutions do you use?
>
>  Jeremy C. Reed
>
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