On Friday 05 March 2004 13:11, you wrote:
> Vaughn Treude wrote:
> > On Thursday 04 March 2004 16:15, you wrote:
> >>On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Vaughn Treude wrote:
> >>>>More info: I saved the stderr output of startx to a file. The XFree86
> >>>>version on the hosed machine is 3.3.6. The XFree86 version on the
> >>>>working
> >>
> >>Well that explains why the XF86Config-4 was skipped.
> >>
> >>>Another oddity - I did an rpm -q XFree86 and the version it returned was
> >>>4.03. So apparently there are two versions present on the machine! But
> >>> I wonder what happened to make it decide to use the wrong one? Does
> >>> anyone know where in the startup this is contained. I don't see it in
> >>> the "startx" script.
> >>
> >>You mentioned earlier about copying files from another box.
> >>
> >>I suggest that remove all the X11R6 XFree86 files. And reinstall
> >>XFree86.
> >>
> >>I don't think you have two complete XFree86 installs, but a mix and match
> >>which is broken.
> >>
> >> Jeremy C. Reed
> >> http://www.reedmedia.net/
> >
> > OK, I got my CD's back and tried to remove and reinstall. RPM got snippy
> > with me when I wanted to remove the XFree86 RPM, complaining of
> > dependencies. I got lazy and just did a "rpm -Uvh"; which did update a
> > few files (I took snapshots of the /usr file tree before and after.)
> > But it didn't fix the problem. I finally thought of running the XFree86
> > binary manually, and seeing what output it produced. I'm not sure if it
> > didn't like my radeon driver, or if there's some problem with detection
> > due to some corrupt kernel module. As I noted before, three other
> > installations (all newer, I admit) detect the Radeo card correctly: Ret
> > Hat 9, Mandrake 9.1, and Lindows 4.0. So here's the output, and maybe
> > someone can see what might be amiss:
> >
> >
> > XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Window System
> > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
> > Release Date: 16 March 2001
> > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> > Operating System: Linux 2.4.1-20mdksmp i686 [ELF]
> > Module Loader present
> > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Mar 5 10:21:31 2004
> > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
> > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
> > (==) ServerLayout "layout1"
> > (**) |-->Screen "screen1" (0)
> > (**) | |-->Monitor "monitor1"
> > (**) | |-->Device "device1"
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
> > (WW) Option "XkbCompat" requires an string value
> > (**) XKB: model: "pc105"
> > (**) XKB: layout: "us"
> > (WW) Option "XkbOptions" requires an string value
> > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
> > (**) FontPath set to "unix/:-1"
> > (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> > (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> > (--) using VT number 7
> >
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
> > (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
> > (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
> > (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0
> > (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
> > (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI unknown chipset (0x5157) rev 0, Mem @
> > 0xe0000000/27, 0xec020000/16, I/O @ 0xc000/8
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
> > (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/linux/v4l_drv.o
> > (II) Module v4l: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.0.1
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
> > (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
> > (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
> > (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.1.9
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
> > (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
> > (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
> > (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
> > (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
> > (II) Module radeon: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 4.0.1
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
> > (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 6.2.3
> > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
> > (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
> > compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0
> > (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
> > (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.2.3) for chipsets: ati, ativga
> > (II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
> > ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI),
> > ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (AGP),
> > ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI),
> > ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP),
> > ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)
> > (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
> > ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP)
> > (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
> > (EE) No devices detected.
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > no screens found
> >
> > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
> > the full server output, not just the last messages.
> > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
> > Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org.
> >
> > I-------------
> >
> > Here's the pertinent section from XFree86Config-4:
> >
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier "monitor1"
> > VendorName "Plug'n Play"
> > ModelName "Philips CM0800 (15B)"
> > HorizSync 30-82
> > VertRefresh 56-76
> >
> > # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
> > # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
> > ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563
> > -hsync -vsync
> >
> > # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
> > # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
> > ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
> >
> > # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
> > ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "device1"
> > VendorName "ATI"
> > BoardName "ATI Radeon"
> > Driver "radeon"
> > Option "DPMS"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "screen1"
> > Device "device1"
> > Monitor "monitor1"
> > DefaultColorDepth 16
> >
> > Subsection "Display"
> > Depth 8
> > Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
> > "640x480" EndSubsection
> >
> > Subsection "Display"
> > Depth 15
> > Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
> > "640x480" EndSubsection
> >
> > Subsection "Display"
> > Depth 16
> > Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
> > "640x480" EndSubsection
> >
> > Subsection "Display"
> > Depth 24
> > Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
> > "640x480" EndSubsection
> > EndSection
> >
> >
> > I-------------
> >
> > My guess is that the newer version of XFree86 is failing and it's falling
> > back on version 3.3.6, which as I said before doesn't recognize the
> > radeon card and configures it as a crappy generic VGA.
> >
> > I thought it was interesting that in the output file it was looking for
> > the other ATI drivers (which I didn't specify in XF86Config-4) as well
> > as the radeon driver. But at the end it says that tno devides were
> > detected - unless it was just looking for the wrong card in that
> > statement.
>
> All the stuff in the log that is marked with (II) is just informational.
> The fact that it can't identify your card suggests that the version of X
> that you have on that system isn't new enough to have the information
> needed to recognize the card:
>
> (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI unknown chipset (0x5157) rev 0, Mem @ 0xe0000000/27,
> 0xec020000/16, I/O @ 0xc000/8
>
> Unknown Chipset......
>
I hadn't noticed that; thought the (II) messages meant it recognized the
chipset. But I know this version of X works with this card, because it
worked until my configuration got mysteriously hosed. (Is there any way to
force it?) Also, I tried taking my Mandrake 9 CD's and updating to a newer
version of XFree86. That was a total waste of time, because this version
required libgcc_s, which Mandrake 8 doesn't have. I couldn't install
libgcc_s from the the Mandrake 9 because it requred a newer version of libc
than I have, and I know that changing libc is prone to break a system. I
thought maybe I could find the source for libgcc_s and try to compile it, but
that proved to be a daunting task. I'm probably going to back up my current
partition and blow it away with a reinstall.
Vaughn
> You might also want to take a look through:
> http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html
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