Am 12. Sep, 2003 schw=E4tzte Derek Neighbors so:
> Alan Dayley wrote:
> | There are two, well, three decision points here.
> |
> | 1-Do we really want a preferred distro?
> I think it's a good thing, but maybe not a PLUG thing. Maybe this
> becomes an AZOTO issue.
It's a question for both groups. They might come up with different answers
as to whether or not one is needed and might come up with different answers
to which one to use :).
> | 2-If so, which distro?
> That is to be decided if (1) is decided. I think the only two worth
> really considering are Debian and Red Hat. I will list briefly my
> problems with other distros (for this purpose)...
>
> Mandrake - The company is on shakey ground. We want to make sure we are
> suggesting something that is strong in the market place (community)
>
> SuSE/Lindows - Too much non-free stuff. (Don't sufficiently value
> Freedom) **note SuSE is a great distro please no flames
>
> Xandros/Lycoris/Etc - Not enough peneration for support outside the LUG
>
> Gentoo - Compiling is not user friendly
>
> *BSD - Non-GPL kernel (no flames please thats another thread) **note
> there are several GREAT BSD distro's, if you haven't tried one you should
We can still help with each of those upon request. One of the *BSDs might b=
e
the appropriate thing to use for the 'firewall in a box' solution. I,
personally, think it should still be GNU/Linux-based just to consolodate
info needed to run the system.
> | 3-And thereafter, which desktop?
> |
> | (Maybe the 3 falls out of 2 since most distros have a default or
> | preferred desktop already.)
>
> I think 3 is less important. I would say use the default desktop of the
> distro, but install others so people have ability to "play" if they so
> desire.
At this point I agree that that's probably the best solution for desktops.
> | If someone buys into 1, they must do so understanding that their
> | personally preferred distro may not be picked at 2. ie. no sour grapes
> | at 2 if you agreed to 1.
We need to determine what capabilities/features are important, then I think
it will be easier get people to buy into whatever gets chosen due to being
able to see the technical merit for the distro of choice.
> Absolutely. I have stated even if it's not Debian (my choice) we still
> need it. The only choices I could not tolerate would be one's that
> infringe grossly on freedom (like say Lindows)
>
> | On the other hand (and to throw more fuel on the debate), does the
> | entire group need to decide this? Other groups have a designated
Like most things in life, it'll be decided by those who participate, which
generally is a subgroup.
> No not necessarily, but it's interesting to hear feedback here, from
> newbies and non newbies a like.
We definitely need feedback from people new to using GNU/Linux. They're our
primary customers for InstallFest-like activities :).
> | support coordinator who leads a group of voluteers on support issues.
> | That sub-group could decide on the preference based on their own reason=
s
> | (see http://lugod.org/projects/lert/). Maybe this is something better
> | under the direct supervision of AZOTO and PLUG just follows what the
> | AZOTO support group decides. AZOTO could accept $ donations for timely
> | assistance. PLUG has no structure or mechanism for donations.
I like that. It does sound like something that would be more appropriate fo=
r
AZOTO to run.
> Since PLUG has no "structure" to make decisions, short of a steering
> committee, it makes a certain amount of sense to maybe make it an AZOTO
> thing. It will be nice once AZOTO is sufficiently organized enough to
> do membership and get the members involved. :)
The 'default distro' question is something both groups need to decide on
their own. I expect decisions by one on this topic to influence decisions b=
y
the other. I also expect AZOTO will vote a resounding 'debian' or 'Knoppix'=
,
depending on whether or not there's a good 'Knoppix as a distro' path.
ciao,
der.hans
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