Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!

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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile workstations...

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty <>
wrote:

> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one at
> System 76:
>
>
>
> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700: List
> $2066, paid $1536
>
> System76:  16G RAM, 1080P,         2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, I7-7700:
> list under $1500.

>
>
>
> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display –
> and save around $500. I’d say 76 isn’t bad, price-wise. The primary
> reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a
> side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got
> home and booted Linux on it – whoa!). (Don’t know which video card they
> each had – I’m not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don’t care that
> much… I think)
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet or
> WiFi. I’m downloading 18.2 now to see if that’s better, as a google search
> seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness!
>
>
>
> Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE ‘standard’ disk slot, but 3,
> yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only 2
> RAM slots. Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17” also) has 2 standard
> slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like they don’t
> have ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost $3000. Of
> course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video card…
>
>
>
> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> system76 is expensive too
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski <>
> wrote:
>
> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a
> touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install
> different flavors of linux for you.
>
> Phil Waclawski
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips <>
> wrote:
>
> Rusty,
>
>
>
> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, but
> I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware for a
> couple of years, and it is flawless.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash <> wrote:
>
> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze
> tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and
> just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. That
> supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which
> should be everything...
>
>
>
> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the
> warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do
> that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't
> matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be
> none the wiser anyways.
>
>
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb <> wrote:
>
> * Carruth, Rusty (aka ) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep
> 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say:
> >
> > (By the way – does anyone remember the ‘windows refund day’ many years
> back?
> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA (or
> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and Micro$oft
> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which,
> indeed,
> > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund…. Again, where’s
> > the lawyers????)
>
> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund and
> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I
> think
> there's a documentary out there somewhere.
>
> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image of
> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and
> I've
> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup
> like that is kinda cool.
>
> /i.
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