I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile workstations... On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one at > System 76: > > > > Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700: List > $2066, paid $1536 > > System76: 16G RAM, 1080P, 2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, I7-7700: > list under $1500. > > > > So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display – > and save around $500. I’d say 76 isn’t bad, price-wise. The primary > reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a > side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got > home and booted Linux on it – whoa!). (Don’t know which video card they > each had – I’m not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don’t care that > much… I think) > > > > Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet or > WiFi. I’m downloading 18.2 now to see if that’s better, as a google search > seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness! > > > > Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE ‘standard’ disk slot, but 3, > yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only 2 > RAM slots. Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17” also) has 2 standard > slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like they don’t > have ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost $3000. Of > course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video card… > > > > *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On > Behalf Of *Michael > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM > *To:* Main PLUG discussion list > *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?! > > > > system76 is expensive too > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski > wrote: > > I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a > touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install > different flavors of linux for you. > > Phil Waclawski > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips > wrote: > > Rusty, > > > > Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, but > I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware for a > couple of years, and it is flawless. > > > > Mark > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > > I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze > tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and > just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. That > supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which > should be everything... > > > > I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the > warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do > that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't > matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be > none the wiser anyways. > > > > -mb > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb wrote: > > * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep > 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say: > > > > (By the way – does anyone remember the ‘windows refund day’ many years > back? > > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA (or > > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and Micro$oft > > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which, > indeed, > > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund…. Again, where’s > > the lawyers????) > > I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund and > Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I > think > there's a documentary out there somewhere. > > When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image of > the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and > I've > never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup > like that is kinda cool. > > /i. > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen