Derek Trotter expat.arizonan at gmail.com
Wed Nov 27 18:27:18 MST 2013


It would be nice if the linux distros would get together and come up 
with a "linux friendly" certification.

On 11/27/2013 09:14 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
>
> I'd avoid hp laptops like the plague, traditionally they and toshiba 
> have been  by far the worst laptop vendor for linux support, as they 
> still play the "oh, no one uses linux" excuse.  I abandoned my 
> personal elitebook as it'd never suspend right, and constantly have 
> disk issues with them for no apparent reason (seems disk locking/tpm 
> bugs them out).  Their hardware developers work around acpi bugs in 
> bios with windoze drivers for them, or engineer the bios for broken 
> windoze acpi implementations.  Never really have gotten a clear answer 
> which direction it actually is, but typically linux hates their idiots 
> that make their bios.
>
> That said, my current employer gave me a hp elitebook folio that 
> surprisingly works pretty decently with linux (ubuntu, currently 13.10 
> on it).  My worst issues pertain to enterprise-y function like 
> wireless, docking stations, ad/kerberos (likewise/krb5), pam, and lightdm.
>
> Dell on the other hand employees at least one of the more major 
> contributors to the linux kernel, and haven't had an issue running 
> linux oob on them since maybe 2008.
>
> -mb
>
> Sent from a carrier unfriendly android device.
>
> On November 27, 2013 3:15:41 PM Derek Trotter wrote:
>
>> I would be careful of the HP laptops if you're going to put linux on 
>> them.  You might remember from a few months ago the trouble I had 
>> with my HP desktop running linux.  It liked to lock up at random, 
>> sometimes within 20 minutes of booting up, sometimes it might last a 
>> day or two.  Recently my sister asked me to put linux on her HP 
>> laptop.  I did and it had the same locking up at random issue.
>>
>> On 11/27/2013 09:24 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>> I have to say i have liked the internal design of the last two 
>>> generations. Easy to work on and keep cleaned out.
>>>
>>> well on the latitudes specifically, the inspirons were a PITA to 
>>> work on.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com 
>>> <mailto:klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     I'm seeing some decent pricing on laptops for tomorrow night /
>>>     Friday morning.
>>>
>>>     I have several HP's and find them to be decent laptops.  I use
>>>     Dell for my desktop computers and have really enjoyed their
>>>     products.
>>>
>>>     I'm looking at a Toshiba that is a decent build and has a really
>>>     good price.  I owned a Toshiba about 12 years ago and was not
>>>     very impressed.
>>>
>>>     I hear there is only 4 manufactures of laptop components, so I
>>>     am wondering if the company that does the assembly and puts
>>>     their name on the finish product is all that important.
>>>
>>>     You thoughts on this matter are very important to me.
>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>     Keith
>>>
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>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you 
>>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze 
>>> button.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
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>>
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