[Michael Butash]

I'd avoid hp laptops like the plague, traditionally they and toshiba have 
been  by far the worst laptop vendor for linux support, as they still play 
the "oh, no one uses linux" excuse.  I abandoned my personal elitebook as 
it'd never suspend right, and constantly have disk issues with them for no 
apparent reason (seems disk locking/tpm bugs them out).  Their hardware 
developers work around acpi bugs in bios with windoze drivers for them, or 
engineer the bios for broken windoze acpi implementations.  Never really 
have gotten a clear answer which direction it actually is, but typically 
linux hates their idiots that make their bios.

That said, my current employer gave me a hp elitebook folio that 
surprisingly works pretty decently with linux (ubuntu, currently 13.10 on 
it).  My worst issues pertain to enterprise-y function like wireless, 
docking stations, ad/kerberos (likewise/krb5), pam, and lightdm.

Dell on the other hand employees at least one of the more major 
contributors to the linux kernel, and haven't had an issue running linux 
oob on them since maybe 2008.

-mb

Sent from a carrier unfriendly android device.



On November 27, 2013 3:15:41 PM Derek Trotter <expat.arizonan at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would be careful of the HP laptops if you're going to put linux on them.  
> You might remember from a few months ago the trouble I had with my HP 
> desktop running linux.  It liked to lock up at random, sometimes within 20 
> minutes of booting up, sometimes it might last a day or two. Recently my 
> sister asked me to put linux on her HP laptop.  I did and it had the same 
> locking up at random issue.
>
> On 11/27/2013 09:24 AM, Stephen wrote:
> > I have to say i have liked the internal design of the last two 
> generations. Easy to work on and keep cleaned out.
> >
> > well on the latitudes specifically, the inspirons were a PITA to work on.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >     I'm seeing some decent pricing on laptops for tomorrow night /
> >     Friday morning.
> >
> >     I have several HP's and find them to be decent laptops.  I use
> >     Dell for my desktop computers and have really enjoyed their products.
> >
> >     I'm looking at a Toshiba that is a decent build and has a really
> >     good price.  I owned a Toshiba about 12 years ago and was not very
> >     impressed.
> >
> >     I hear there is only 4 manufactures of laptop components, so I am
> >     wondering if the company that does the assembly and puts their
> >     name on the finish product is all that important.
> >
> >     You thoughts on this matter are very important to me.
> >
> >     Thanks!
> >     Keith
> >
> >
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