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<font face="Comic Sans MS">It would be nice if the linux distros
would get together and come up with a "linux friendly" certification.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/2013 09:14 PM, Michael Butash
wrote:<br>
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<p>I'd avoid hp laptops like the plague, traditionally they and
toshiba
have been by far the worst laptop vendor for linux support, as
they
still play the "oh, no one uses linux" excuse. I abandoned my
personal elitebook as it'd never suspend right, and constantly
have disk
issues with them for no apparent reason (seems disk locking/tpm
bugs them
out). Their hardware developers work around acpi bugs in bios
with
windoze drivers for them, or engineer the bios for broken
windoze acpi
implementations. Never really have gotten a clear answer which
direction it actually is, but typically linux hates their idiots
that make
their bios.</p>
<p>That said, my current employer gave me a hp elitebook folio
that
surprisingly works pretty decently with linux (ubuntu, currently
13.10 on
it). My worst issues pertain to enterprise-y function like
wireless,
docking stations, ad/kerberos (likewise/krb5), pam, and lightdm.</p>
<p>Dell on the other hand employees at least one of the more major
contributors to the linux kernel, and haven't had an issue
running linux
oob on them since maybe 2008.</p>
<p>-mb</p>
<p>Sent from a carrier unfriendly android device.<br>
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<p>On November 27, 2013 3:15:41 PM Derek Trotter <expat.arizonan@gmail.com>
wrote:</expat.arizonan@gmail.com></p>
<blockquote type="cite"> <font face="Comic Sans MS">I would be
careful of the HP laptops if you're going to put linux on
them. You might remember from a few months ago the trouble I
had with my HP desktop running linux. It liked to lock up at
random, sometimes within 20 minutes of booting up, sometimes
it might last a day or two. Recently my sister asked me to
put linux on her HP laptop. I did and it had the same locking
up at random issue.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/2013 09:24 AM, Stephen
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<div dir="ltr">I have to say i have liked the internal design
of the last two generations. Easy to work on and keep
cleaned out.
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<div>well on the latitudes specifically, the inspirons were
a PITA to work on.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM,
keith smith <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"></span></div>
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">Hi,</span></div>
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><br>
<span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"></span></div>
<div
style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I'm
seeing some decent pricing on laptops for
tomorrow night / Friday morning.</span></div>
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <br>
<span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"></span></div>
<div
style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I have
several HP's and find them to be decent
laptops. I use Dell for my desktop computers
and have really enjoyed their products. <br>
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><br>
<span title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"></span></div>
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I'm
looking at a Toshiba that is a decent build and
has a really good price. I owned a Toshiba
about 12 years ago and was not very impressed.</span></div>
<div
style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"><br>
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Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">I hear
there is only 4 manufactures of laptop
components, so I am wondering if the company
that does the assembly and puts their name on
the finish product is all that important.</span></div>
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Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"><span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org"><br>
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<div
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Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">You
thoughts on this matter are very important to
me.</span></div>
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Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <br>
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Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif"> <span
title="plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org">Thanks!</span></div>
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