[Michael Havens]

but no one usees Linux! we're on the fringe. hardy-har-har

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Derek Trotter <expat.arizonan at gmail.com>wrote:

>  It would be nice if the linux distros would get together and come up
> with a "linux friendly" certification.
>
>  On 11/27/2013 09:14 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
>
> I'd avoid hp laptops like the plague, traditionally they and toshiba have
> been  by far the worst laptop vendor for linux support, as they still play
> the "oh, no one uses linux" excuse.  I abandoned my personal elitebook as
> it'd never suspend right, and constantly have disk issues with them for no
> apparent reason (seems disk locking/tpm bugs them out).  Their hardware
> developers work around acpi bugs in bios with windoze drivers for them, or
> engineer the bios for broken windoze acpi implementations.  Never really
> have gotten a clear answer which direction it actually is, but typically
> linux hates their idiots that make their bios.
>
> That said, my current employer gave me a hp elitebook folio that
> surprisingly works pretty decently with linux (ubuntu, currently 13.10 on
> it).  My worst issues pertain to enterprise-y function like wireless,
> docking stations, ad/kerberos (likewise/krb5), pam, and lightdm.
>
> Dell on the other hand employees at least one of the more major
> contributors to the linux kernel, and haven't had an issue running linux
> oob on them since maybe 2008.
>
> -mb
>
> Sent from a carrier unfriendly android device.
>
> On November 27, 2013 3:15:41 PM Derek Trotter  wrote:
>
> I would be careful of the HP laptops if you're going to put linux on
> them.  You might remember from a few months ago the trouble I had with my
> HP desktop running linux.  It liked to lock up at random, sometimes within
> 20 minutes of booting up, sometimes it might last a day or two.  Recently
> my sister asked me to put linux on her HP laptop.  I did and it had the
> same locking up at random issue.
>
>  On 11/27/2013 09:24 AM, Stephen wrote:
>
> I have to say i have liked the internal design of the last two
> generations. Easy to work on and keep cleaned out.
>
>  well on the latitudes specifically, the inspirons were a PITA to work on.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I'm seeing some decent pricing on laptops for tomorrow night / Friday
>> morning.
>>
>>  I have several HP's and find them to be decent laptops.  I use Dell for
>> my desktop computers and have really enjoyed their products.
>>
>>  I'm looking at a Toshiba that is a decent build and has a really good
>> price.  I owned a Toshiba about 12 years ago and was not very impressed.
>>
>>  I hear there is only 4 manufactures of laptop components, so I am
>> wondering if the company that does the assembly and puts their name on the
>> finish product is all that important.
>>
>>  You thoughts on this matter are very important to me.
>>
>>  Thanks!
>>  Keith
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>>
>
>
>
>  --
> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
>
> --
> "I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual."
>
> Patrick Moore
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
>
> --
> "I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual."
>
> Patrick Moore
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.phxlinux.org/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20131127/0768e4fd/attachment.html>