if you got time and you want to hear about it from a cardiologist check out
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:38 PM Michael <
bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.
>
> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,
> and suffer from chronic fatigue.'
>
> Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence visit:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ and ask there.
>
> As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other
> benefits happened as well.
> as far as the weight loss goes, you will lose 2-3 pounds a week if you do
> 32 hour fasting twice a week combined with a protocol of fasting 17 hours a
> day the other days of the week. if you fast for 90 hours you will lose
> about 5 pounds on non-water weight.
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:24 PM Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.
>>
>> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,
>> and suffer from chronic fatigue.'
>>
>> Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence
>> visit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ and ask there.
>>
>> As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other
>> benefits happened as well.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 1:58 PM <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> First thank those in charge for allowing this off topic exchange.
>>>
>>> Thank you Mike for sharing.
>>>
>>> Mike, what is your goal for posting this documentation?
>>>
>>> Mike where did you get your fasting guidance?
>>>
>>> For me this might be a timely response to my medical needs.
>>>
>>> I am a Christian and ask God for wisdom maybe 5 days out of the week. I
>>> think Mike's post might be an answer to my prayers.
>>>
>>> I am 68 years old and I have a ton of health issues.
>>>
>>> I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.
>>>
>>> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,
>>> and suffer from chronic fatigue.
>>>
>>> I am treated by the VA, which means they follow the Pharmaceutical
>>> companies teachings and approach to decease.
>>>
>>> I am not against the Pharmaceutical companies. I think they have their
>>> place.
>>>
>>> I was on Ozempic and stopped taking it because of it's side effects.
>>>
>>> I was on statins for my high collateral. According to Barbara O'neal
>>> statins can cause brain fog. I can attest to that.
>>>
>>> Interestingly Mike shared that he is able to impact his situation
>>> without a Pharmaceutical solution.
>>>
>>> I have this notion that if I lose 50lbs or more and eat better, I might
>>> be able to get off all these Pharmaceuticals they are giving me. I
>>> currently take 10 different Pharmaceuticals for all that ails me.
>>>
>>> My Pharmaceuticals are mailed to me and come with a print out that says
>>> my doctor has determined the benefits of taking this drug out weigh it's
>>> side effects. I'm not sure. Getting rid of the statins has made my
>>> life better. The brain fog was impacting me in the extreme.
>>>
>>> I am embracing the alternate health system.
>>>
>>> Now I am wondering if fasting can benefit me.
>>>
>>> We are moving into a new era. I wonder what impact Robert Francis
>>> Kennedy Jr might have on the Food and Drug Administration.
>>>
>>> Thanks you for allowing this off topic post.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2025-02-15 11:57, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> > As you all know I had a TBI and I discovered something and was hoping
>>> > someone could pass it on so we could get some hard data and studies
>>> > done on this:
>>> >
>>> > Case Study: The Role of Fasting and Autophagy in Post-Traumatic Brain
>>> > Injury (TBI) Recovery
>>> >
>>> > Patient: Michael Havens
>>> > Age: 53
>>> > Location: Ocala, Florida
>>> > Date of Injury: 1985 (vehicle accident resulting in TBI)
>>> > Diagnosis: Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), 6-week coma
>>> >
>>> > Abstract:
>>> > This case study explores the potential benefits of extended fasting in
>>> > a patient recovering from a traumatic brain injury (TBI). The patient,
>>> > Michael Havens, sustained a significant brain injury in 1985 after
>>> > being hit by a vehicle, resulting in a 6-week coma. After beginning a
>>> > fasting regimen in 2023, which included a series of 32-hour fasts and
>>> > a 90-hour fast, the patient reports notable improvements in speech,
>>> > memory, physical speed, and cognitive function, suggesting that
>>> > autophagy and fasting may offer neuroprotective effects and promote
>>> > recovery. The patient also theorizes that fasting may be an
>>> > evolutionary mechanism designed for healing in times of food scarcity,
>>> > particularly following injuries like those sustained in pre-modern
>>> > times.
>>> >
>>> > Introduction:
>>> > Traumatic brain injury (TBI) can result in long-term cognitive and
>>> > physical impairments. Traditional treatments focus on immediate
>>> > rehabilitation, but recent research has begun to explore the potential
>>> > benefits of fasting and other dietary interventions in enhancing
>>> > recovery. Autophagy, a process triggered by fasting, may help clear
>>> > damaged cells and encourage regeneration.
>>> >
>>> > This case study evaluates the effects of fasting on post-TBI recovery,
>>> > particularly focusing on cognitive function, speech, and motor
>>> > abilities, based on the personal experience of Michael Havens, who
>>> > began fasting in 2023 to support recovery from his TBI.
>>> >
>>> > Methods:
>>> >
>>> > Initial Condition:
>>> >
>>> > The patient sustained a TBI in 1985 after being struck by a vehicle.
>>> > The injury resulted in a 6-week coma, and upon awakening, the patient
>>> > experienced cognitive and physical impairments, including memory loss,
>>> > slow speech, and physical slowness.
>>> > These impairments persisted for several years following the injury.
>>> > Fasting Protocol (2023):
>>> > The patient began a fasting regimen in 2023, incorporating a
>>> > combination of:
>>> >
>>> > 32-hour fasts once a week (separated by a month or two from the
>>> > 90-hour fast)
>>> > 90-hour fast (done once in 2023)
>>> > A daily 17:7 intermittent fasting schedule, where the patient eats
>>> > within a 7-hour window each day and fasts for the remaining 17 hours.
>>> > Observations:
>>> > After completing the 90-hour fast, the patient noticed several
>>> > improvements, including:
>>> >
>>> > Speech: Increased clarity and fluency in verbal communication.
>>> > Memory: Enhanced recall and sharper focus, although the improvements
>>> > in memory were not fully permanent.
>>> > Cognitive Speed: Faster processing and quicker mental responses.
>>> > Physical Speed: Improved physical agility and increased mobility.
>>> > Additionally, the patient experienced relief from carpal tunnel
>>> > syndrome, a condition that had been a source of chronic discomfort.
>>> > The patient began fasting in 2023 solely for weight loss, with no
>>> > expectation of affecting TBI recovery. The TBI-related impairments
>>> > persisted but were somewhat alleviated by the continuous process of
>>> > autophagy, which had a beneficial effect on the aforementioned
>>> > cognitive and physical ailments. The 32-hour fasts were performed once
>>> > a week and separated by a month or two from the 90-hour fast, with the
>>> > latter having a more noticeable impact. The improvements in speech,
>>> > memory, and cognitive function were unexpected outcomes of the fasting
>>> > regimen.
>>> >
>>> > Results:
>>> > The patient’s experience suggests a potential relationship between
>>> > fasting, autophagy, and improved recovery outcomes after TBI. The
>>> > improvements in speech, memory, and motor function could be linked to
>>> > the neuroprotective effects of fasting, where the body promotes cell
>>> > repair and regeneration during periods of food scarcity. The
>>> > hypothesis that fasting might have evolved as an adaptive mechanism
>>> > for healing during times of injury and food deprivation is explored,
>>> > with particular focus on the benefits for individuals recovering from
>>> > severe trauma.
>>> >
>>> > Discussion:
>>> > This case highlights the possible therapeutic effects of fasting and
>>> > autophagy in the recovery from traumatic brain injury. The patient’s
>>> > improvements in speech, cognitive function, and physical speed support
>>> > the notion that fasting could have neuroplastic benefits. The 90-hour
>>> > fast seems to have had a particularly strong effect, although further
>>> > clinical studies are required to validate these results and understand
>>> > the mechanisms behind them.
>>> >
>>> > It is important to note that fasting should be approached cautiously,
>>> > particularly in individuals with significant medical conditions. While
>>> > the patient did not consult with a doctor specifically about fasting,
>>> > medical supervision is recommended for those considering extended
>>> > fasting, especially for those with a history of TBI.
>>> >
>>> > Conclusion:
>>> > This case study suggests that fasting, particularly extended fasting,
>>> > may be a useful intervention in enhancing recovery from traumatic
>>> > brain injury. The patient’s improvements in speech, memory, and
>>> > physical agility provide preliminary evidence that fasting may play a
>>> > role in neuroprotection and healing. Further clinical research into
>>> > autophagy and fasting in TBI patients is needed to explore these
>>> > findings in greater depth.
>>> >
>>> > Contact Information:
>>> > Michael Havens
>>> > 8 Cedar Run Court
>>> > Ocala, Florida 34472
>>> > Email: bmike1@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > response:
>>> > I see! Congrats on the recovery! If you’re affiliated with a group
>>> > in the science world, direct submissions to journals (as long as you
>>> > have hard data with numbers) could work, but if not that would sadly
>>> > be a flat rejection. Also if it’s accepted you would then be writing
>>> > up the entire study yourself if you’re up for that. Sharing with
>>> > smaller medical groups if you know of any or your doctor(s) and asking
>>> > them could be a great resource since they would know more about
>>> > conferences or talks that present case studies like this and such.
>>> > I love reading this kind of data because I’ve have three concussions
>>> > myself, luckily all mild/moderate, but ending up with post-concussion
>>> > syndrome. I have noticed some improvement with fasting in clarity of
>>> > speech but memory especially and the odd word recall is very “hit
>>> > the wall” sensation. Proprioception is also still trash 😅
>>> >
>>> > response:
>>> > I did exactly that back in 2020. I ceased all sugar consumption and
>>> > began fasting and exercising in a fasted state every day. I lost 70
>>> > pounds. I also began healing brain damage and arrested development.
>>> > <elaborate>
>>> > I started no sugar and 18:6 eating schedule and walking 10,000 steps a
>>> > day in March of 2020. By summer, I was up to 24,000 steps a day, 12
>>> > miles. Late summer of 2020 I read a study where rats were put in a
>>> > ketogenic scenario. The rats kept in ketosis had bigger brains then
>>> > the rats fed regularly. I thought if I do that it should help my
>>> > brain, right? So that's what I started doing. It healed my inability
>>> > to feel and express emotions (alexithymia). I was tortured and abused
>>> > severely when I was young. I had CPTSD and arrested development. I was
>>> > a frightened eight year old boy in an adult man's body. I threw myself
>>> > into therapy and on fasting and exercising. I still do it to this very
>>> > day. <I also engaged in> EMDR, CBT, and massage therapy. <I feel I
>>> > began to cure the brain damage> by putting my body in a situation
>>> > where I made keytones and BDNF every day. The brain functions better
>>> > on keytones than it does on glycolosis. BDNF repaired damaged neurons
>>> > and built new neural networks.
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