'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.
I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,
and suffer from chronic fatigue.'
Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence visit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ and ask there.
As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other benefits
happened as well.
as far as the weight loss goes, you will lose 2-3 pounds a week if you do
32 hour fasting twice a week combined with a protocol of fasting 17 hours a
day the other days of the week. if you fast for 90 hours you will lose
about 5 pounds on non-water weight.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:24 PM Michael <
bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.
>
> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,
> and suffer from chronic fatigue.'
>
> Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence visit:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ and ask there.
>
> As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other
> benefits happened as well.
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 1:58 PM <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>
>> First thank those in charge for allowing this off topic exchange.
>>
>> Thank you Mike for sharing.
>>
>> Mike, what is your goal for posting this documentation?
>>
>> Mike where did you get your fasting guidance?
>>
>> For me this might be a timely response to my medical needs.
>>
>> I am a Christian and ask God for wisdom maybe 5 days out of the week. I
>> think Mike's post might be an answer to my prayers.
>>
>> I am 68 years old and I have a ton of health issues.
>>
>> I have heart disease and I have 8 stents.
>>
>> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic,
>> and suffer from chronic fatigue.
>>
>> I am treated by the VA, which means they follow the Pharmaceutical
>> companies teachings and approach to decease.
>>
>> I am not against the Pharmaceutical companies. I think they have their
>> place.
>>
>> I was on Ozempic and stopped taking it because of it's side effects.
>>
>> I was on statins for my high collateral. According to Barbara O'neal
>> statins can cause brain fog. I can attest to that.
>>
>> Interestingly Mike shared that he is able to impact his situation
>> without a Pharmaceutical solution.
>>
>> I have this notion that if I lose 50lbs or more and eat better, I might
>> be able to get off all these Pharmaceuticals they are giving me. I
>> currently take 10 different Pharmaceuticals for all that ails me.
>>
>> My Pharmaceuticals are mailed to me and come with a print out that says
>> my doctor has determined the benefits of taking this drug out weigh it's
>> side effects. I'm not sure. Getting rid of the statins has made my
>> life better. The brain fog was impacting me in the extreme.
>>
>> I am embracing the alternate health system.
>>
>> Now I am wondering if fasting can benefit me.
>>
>> We are moving into a new era. I wonder what impact Robert Francis
>> Kennedy Jr might have on the Food and Drug Administration.
>>
>> Thanks you for allowing this off topic post.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2025-02-15 11:57, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > As you all know I had a TBI and I discovered something and was hoping
>> > someone could pass it on so we could get some hard data and studies
>> > done on this:
>> >
>> > Case Study: The Role of Fasting and Autophagy in Post-Traumatic Brain
>> > Injury (TBI) Recovery
>> >
>> > Patient: Michael Havens
>> > Age: 53
>> > Location: Ocala, Florida
>> > Date of Injury: 1985 (vehicle accident resulting in TBI)
>> > Diagnosis: Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), 6-week coma
>> >
>> > Abstract:
>> > This case study explores the potential benefits of extended fasting in
>> > a patient recovering from a traumatic brain injury (TBI). The patient,
>> > Michael Havens, sustained a significant brain injury in 1985 after
>> > being hit by a vehicle, resulting in a 6-week coma. After beginning a
>> > fasting regimen in 2023, which included a series of 32-hour fasts and
>> > a 90-hour fast, the patient reports notable improvements in speech,
>> > memory, physical speed, and cognitive function, suggesting that
>> > autophagy and fasting may offer neuroprotective effects and promote
>> > recovery. The patient also theorizes that fasting may be an
>> > evolutionary mechanism designed for healing in times of food scarcity,
>> > particularly following injuries like those sustained in pre-modern
>> > times.
>> >
>> > Introduction:
>> > Traumatic brain injury (TBI) can result in long-term cognitive and
>> > physical impairments. Traditional treatments focus on immediate
>> > rehabilitation, but recent research has begun to explore the potential
>> > benefits of fasting and other dietary interventions in enhancing
>> > recovery. Autophagy, a process triggered by fasting, may help clear
>> > damaged cells and encourage regeneration.
>> >
>> > This case study evaluates the effects of fasting on post-TBI recovery,
>> > particularly focusing on cognitive function, speech, and motor
>> > abilities, based on the personal experience of Michael Havens, who
>> > began fasting in 2023 to support recovery from his TBI.
>> >
>> > Methods:
>> >
>> > Initial Condition:
>> >
>> > The patient sustained a TBI in 1985 after being struck by a vehicle.
>> > The injury resulted in a 6-week coma, and upon awakening, the patient
>> > experienced cognitive and physical impairments, including memory loss,
>> > slow speech, and physical slowness.
>> > These impairments persisted for several years following the injury.
>> > Fasting Protocol (2023):
>> > The patient began a fasting regimen in 2023, incorporating a
>> > combination of:
>> >
>> > 32-hour fasts once a week (separated by a month or two from the
>> > 90-hour fast)
>> > 90-hour fast (done once in 2023)
>> > A daily 17:7 intermittent fasting schedule, where the patient eats
>> > within a 7-hour window each day and fasts for the remaining 17 hours.
>> > Observations:
>> > After completing the 90-hour fast, the patient noticed several
>> > improvements, including:
>> >
>> > Speech: Increased clarity and fluency in verbal communication.
>> > Memory: Enhanced recall and sharper focus, although the improvements
>> > in memory were not fully permanent.
>> > Cognitive Speed: Faster processing and quicker mental responses.
>> > Physical Speed: Improved physical agility and increased mobility.
>> > Additionally, the patient experienced relief from carpal tunnel
>> > syndrome, a condition that had been a source of chronic discomfort.
>> > The patient began fasting in 2023 solely for weight loss, with no
>> > expectation of affecting TBI recovery. The TBI-related impairments
>> > persisted but were somewhat alleviated by the continuous process of
>> > autophagy, which had a beneficial effect on the aforementioned
>> > cognitive and physical ailments. The 32-hour fasts were performed once
>> > a week and separated by a month or two from the 90-hour fast, with the
>> > latter having a more noticeable impact. The improvements in speech,
>> > memory, and cognitive function were unexpected outcomes of the fasting
>> > regimen.
>> >
>> > Results:
>> > The patient’s experience suggests a potential relationship between
>> > fasting, autophagy, and improved recovery outcomes after TBI. The
>> > improvements in speech, memory, and motor function could be linked to
>> > the neuroprotective effects of fasting, where the body promotes cell
>> > repair and regeneration during periods of food scarcity. The
>> > hypothesis that fasting might have evolved as an adaptive mechanism
>> > for healing during times of injury and food deprivation is explored,
>> > with particular focus on the benefits for individuals recovering from
>> > severe trauma.
>> >
>> > Discussion:
>> > This case highlights the possible therapeutic effects of fasting and
>> > autophagy in the recovery from traumatic brain injury. The patient’s
>> > improvements in speech, cognitive function, and physical speed support
>> > the notion that fasting could have neuroplastic benefits. The 90-hour
>> > fast seems to have had a particularly strong effect, although further
>> > clinical studies are required to validate these results and understand
>> > the mechanisms behind them.
>> >
>> > It is important to note that fasting should be approached cautiously,
>> > particularly in individuals with significant medical conditions. While
>> > the patient did not consult with a doctor specifically about fasting,
>> > medical supervision is recommended for those considering extended
>> > fasting, especially for those with a history of TBI.
>> >
>> > Conclusion:
>> > This case study suggests that fasting, particularly extended fasting,
>> > may be a useful intervention in enhancing recovery from traumatic
>> > brain injury. The patient’s improvements in speech, memory, and
>> > physical agility provide preliminary evidence that fasting may play a
>> > role in neuroprotection and healing. Further clinical research into
>> > autophagy and fasting in TBI patients is needed to explore these
>> > findings in greater depth.
>> >
>> > Contact Information:
>> > Michael Havens
>> > 8 Cedar Run Court
>> > Ocala, Florida 34472
>> > Email: bmike1@gmail.com
>> >
>> > response:
>> > I see! Congrats on the recovery! If you’re affiliated with a group
>> > in the science world, direct submissions to journals (as long as you
>> > have hard data with numbers) could work, but if not that would sadly
>> > be a flat rejection. Also if it’s accepted you would then be writing
>> > up the entire study yourself if you’re up for that. Sharing with
>> > smaller medical groups if you know of any or your doctor(s) and asking
>> > them could be a great resource since they would know more about
>> > conferences or talks that present case studies like this and such.
>> > I love reading this kind of data because I’ve have three concussions
>> > myself, luckily all mild/moderate, but ending up with post-concussion
>> > syndrome. I have noticed some improvement with fasting in clarity of
>> > speech but memory especially and the odd word recall is very “hit
>> > the wall” sensation. Proprioception is also still trash 😅
>> >
>> > response:
>> > I did exactly that back in 2020. I ceased all sugar consumption and
>> > began fasting and exercising in a fasted state every day. I lost 70
>> > pounds. I also began healing brain damage and arrested development.
>> > <elaborate>
>> > I started no sugar and 18:6 eating schedule and walking 10,000 steps a
>> > day in March of 2020. By summer, I was up to 24,000 steps a day, 12
>> > miles. Late summer of 2020 I read a study where rats were put in a
>> > ketogenic scenario. The rats kept in ketosis had bigger brains then
>> > the rats fed regularly. I thought if I do that it should help my
>> > brain, right? So that's what I started doing. It healed my inability
>> > to feel and express emotions (alexithymia). I was tortured and abused
>> > severely when I was young. I had CPTSD and arrested development. I was
>> > a frightened eight year old boy in an adult man's body. I threw myself
>> > into therapy and on fasting and exercising. I still do it to this very
>> > day. <I also engaged in> EMDR, CBT, and massage therapy. <I feel I
>> > began to cure the brain damage> by putting my body in a situation
>> > where I made keytones and BDNF every day. The brain functions better
>> > on keytones than it does on glycolosis. BDNF repaired damaged neurons
>> > and built new neural networks.
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