if you got time and you want to hear about it from a cardiologist check out https://www.google.com/search?q=fasting+for+survival&oq=fasting+for+surviva&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABjvBTIKCAcQABiiBBiJBTIKCAgQABiABBiiBDIKCAkQABiABBiiBNIBCjExMTExMGoxajeoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:38 PM Michael wrote: > 'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents. > > I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic, > and suffer from chronic fatigue.' > > Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence visit: > https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ and ask there. > > As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other > benefits happened as well. > as far as the weight loss goes, you will lose 2-3 pounds a week if you do > 32 hour fasting twice a week combined with a protocol of fasting 17 hours a > day the other days of the week. if you fast for 90 hours you will lose > about 5 pounds on non-water weight. > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 7:24 PM Michael wrote: > >> 'I have heart disease and I have 8 stents. >> >> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic, >> and suffer from chronic fatigue.' >> >> Fasting has been known to cure all of those. For anecdotal evidence >> visit: https://www.reddit.com/r/fasting/ and ask there. >> >> As for guidance my wife suggested it to lose weight and many other >> benefits happened as well. >> >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 1:58 PM wrote: >> >>> First thank those in charge for allowing this off topic exchange. >>> >>> Thank you Mike for sharing. >>> >>> Mike, what is your goal for posting this documentation? >>> >>> Mike where did you get your fasting guidance? >>> >>> For me this might be a timely response to my medical needs. >>> >>> I am a Christian and ask God for wisdom maybe 5 days out of the week. I >>> think Mike's post might be an answer to my prayers. >>> >>> I am 68 years old and I have a ton of health issues. >>> >>> I have heart disease and I have 8 stents. >>> >>> I have very high blood pressure, high cholesterol, am a type2 diabetic, >>> and suffer from chronic fatigue. >>> >>> I am treated by the VA, which means they follow the Pharmaceutical >>> companies teachings and approach to decease. >>> >>> I am not against the Pharmaceutical companies. I think they have their >>> place. >>> >>> I was on Ozempic and stopped taking it because of it's side effects. >>> >>> I was on statins for my high collateral. According to Barbara O'neal >>> statins can cause brain fog. I can attest to that. >>> >>> Interestingly Mike shared that he is able to impact his situation >>> without a Pharmaceutical solution. >>> >>> I have this notion that if I lose 50lbs or more and eat better, I might >>> be able to get off all these Pharmaceuticals they are giving me. I >>> currently take 10 different Pharmaceuticals for all that ails me. >>> >>> My Pharmaceuticals are mailed to me and come with a print out that says >>> my doctor has determined the benefits of taking this drug out weigh it's >>> side effects. I'm not sure. Getting rid of the statins has made my >>> life better. The brain fog was impacting me in the extreme. >>> >>> I am embracing the alternate health system. >>> >>> Now I am wondering if fasting can benefit me. >>> >>> We are moving into a new era. I wonder what impact Robert Francis >>> Kennedy Jr might have on the Food and Drug Administration. >>> >>> Thanks you for allowing this off topic post. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2025-02-15 11:57, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> > As you all know I had a TBI and I discovered something and was hoping >>> > someone could pass it on so we could get some hard data and studies >>> > done on this: >>> > >>> > Case Study: The Role of Fasting and Autophagy in Post-Traumatic Brain >>> > Injury (TBI) Recovery >>> > >>> > Patient: Michael Havens >>> > Age: 53 >>> > Location: Ocala, Florida >>> > Date of Injury: 1985 (vehicle accident resulting in TBI) >>> > Diagnosis: Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), 6-week coma >>> > >>> > Abstract: >>> > This case study explores the potential benefits of extended fasting in >>> > a patient recovering from a traumatic brain injury (TBI). The patient, >>> > Michael Havens, sustained a significant brain injury in 1985 after >>> > being hit by a vehicle, resulting in a 6-week coma. After beginning a >>> > fasting regimen in 2023, which included a series of 32-hour fasts and >>> > a 90-hour fast, the patient reports notable improvements in speech, >>> > memory, physical speed, and cognitive function, suggesting that >>> > autophagy and fasting may offer neuroprotective effects and promote >>> > recovery. The patient also theorizes that fasting may be an >>> > evolutionary mechanism designed for healing in times of food scarcity, >>> > particularly following injuries like those sustained in pre-modern >>> > times. >>> > >>> > Introduction: >>> > Traumatic brain injury (TBI) can result in long-term cognitive and >>> > physical impairments. Traditional treatments focus on immediate >>> > rehabilitation, but recent research has begun to explore the potential >>> > benefits of fasting and other dietary interventions in enhancing >>> > recovery. Autophagy, a process triggered by fasting, may help clear >>> > damaged cells and encourage regeneration. >>> > >>> > This case study evaluates the effects of fasting on post-TBI recovery, >>> > particularly focusing on cognitive function, speech, and motor >>> > abilities, based on the personal experience of Michael Havens, who >>> > began fasting in 2023 to support recovery from his TBI. >>> > >>> > Methods: >>> > >>> > Initial Condition: >>> > >>> > The patient sustained a TBI in 1985 after being struck by a vehicle. >>> > The injury resulted in a 6-week coma, and upon awakening, the patient >>> > experienced cognitive and physical impairments, including memory loss, >>> > slow speech, and physical slowness. >>> > These impairments persisted for several years following the injury. >>> > Fasting Protocol (2023): >>> > The patient began a fasting regimen in 2023, incorporating a >>> > combination of: >>> > >>> > 32-hour fasts once a week (separated by a month or two from the >>> > 90-hour fast) >>> > 90-hour fast (done once in 2023) >>> > A daily 17:7 intermittent fasting schedule, where the patient eats >>> > within a 7-hour window each day and fasts for the remaining 17 hours. >>> > Observations: >>> > After completing the 90-hour fast, the patient noticed several >>> > improvements, including: >>> > >>> > Speech: Increased clarity and fluency in verbal communication. >>> > Memory: Enhanced recall and sharper focus, although the improvements >>> > in memory were not fully permanent. >>> > Cognitive Speed: Faster processing and quicker mental responses. >>> > Physical Speed: Improved physical agility and increased mobility. >>> > Additionally, the patient experienced relief from carpal tunnel >>> > syndrome, a condition that had been a source of chronic discomfort. >>> > The patient began fasting in 2023 solely for weight loss, with no >>> > expectation of affecting TBI recovery. The TBI-related impairments >>> > persisted but were somewhat alleviated by the continuous process of >>> > autophagy, which had a beneficial effect on the aforementioned >>> > cognitive and physical ailments. The 32-hour fasts were performed once >>> > a week and separated by a month or two from the 90-hour fast, with the >>> > latter having a more noticeable impact. The improvements in speech, >>> > memory, and cognitive function were unexpected outcomes of the fasting >>> > regimen. >>> > >>> > Results: >>> > The patient’s experience suggests a potential relationship between >>> > fasting, autophagy, and improved recovery outcomes after TBI. The >>> > improvements in speech, memory, and motor function could be linked to >>> > the neuroprotective effects of fasting, where the body promotes cell >>> > repair and regeneration during periods of food scarcity. The >>> > hypothesis that fasting might have evolved as an adaptive mechanism >>> > for healing during times of injury and food deprivation is explored, >>> > with particular focus on the benefits for individuals recovering from >>> > severe trauma. >>> > >>> > Discussion: >>> > This case highlights the possible therapeutic effects of fasting and >>> > autophagy in the recovery from traumatic brain injury. The patient’s >>> > improvements in speech, cognitive function, and physical speed support >>> > the notion that fasting could have neuroplastic benefits. The 90-hour >>> > fast seems to have had a particularly strong effect, although further >>> > clinical studies are required to validate these results and understand >>> > the mechanisms behind them. >>> > >>> > It is important to note that fasting should be approached cautiously, >>> > particularly in individuals with significant medical conditions. While >>> > the patient did not consult with a doctor specifically about fasting, >>> > medical supervision is recommended for those considering extended >>> > fasting, especially for those with a history of TBI. >>> > >>> > Conclusion: >>> > This case study suggests that fasting, particularly extended fasting, >>> > may be a useful intervention in enhancing recovery from traumatic >>> > brain injury. The patient’s improvements in speech, memory, and >>> > physical agility provide preliminary evidence that fasting may play a >>> > role in neuroprotection and healing. Further clinical research into >>> > autophagy and fasting in TBI patients is needed to explore these >>> > findings in greater depth. >>> > >>> > Contact Information: >>> > Michael Havens >>> > 8 Cedar Run Court >>> > Ocala, Florida 34472 >>> > Email: bmike1@gmail.com >>> > >>> > response: >>> > I see! Congrats on the recovery! If you’re affiliated with a group >>> > in the science world, direct submissions to journals (as long as you >>> > have hard data with numbers) could work, but if not that would sadly >>> > be a flat rejection. Also if it’s accepted you would then be writing >>> > up the entire study yourself if you’re up for that. Sharing with >>> > smaller medical groups if you know of any or your doctor(s) and asking >>> > them could be a great resource since they would know more about >>> > conferences or talks that present case studies like this and such. >>> > I love reading this kind of data because I’ve have three concussions >>> > myself, luckily all mild/moderate, but ending up with post-concussion >>> > syndrome. I have noticed some improvement with fasting in clarity of >>> > speech but memory especially and the odd word recall is very “hit >>> > the wall” sensation. Proprioception is also still trash 😅 >>> > >>> > response: >>> > I did exactly that back in 2020. I ceased all sugar consumption and >>> > began fasting and exercising in a fasted state every day. I lost 70 >>> > pounds. I also began healing brain damage and arrested development. >>> > >>> > I started no sugar and 18:6 eating schedule and walking 10,000 steps a >>> > day in March of 2020. By summer, I was up to 24,000 steps a day, 12 >>> > miles. Late summer of 2020 I read a study where rats were put in a >>> > ketogenic scenario. The rats kept in ketosis had bigger brains then >>> > the rats fed regularly. I thought if I do that it should help my >>> > brain, right? So that's what I started doing. It healed my inability >>> > to feel and express emotions (alexithymia). I was tortured and abused >>> > severely when I was young. I had CPTSD and arrested development. I was >>> > a frightened eight year old boy in an adult man's body. I threw myself >>> > into therapy and on fasting and exercising. I still do it to this very >>> > day. EMDR, CBT, and massage therapy. >> > began to cure the brain damage> by putting my body in a situation >>> > where I made keytones and BDNF every day. The brain functions better >>> > on keytones than it does on glycolosis. BDNF repaired damaged neurons >>> > and built new neural networks. >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: