All,
Thanks for the replies so far. I have to agree with Keith here. I've been around in tech since the Apple II+ days (before IBM PC) and have been dismayed at the needless complexity of many systems, especially on the database side of things. Not that I can complain too loudly, I made very good money in the later years being hired on to improve DB efficiency, which almost always was simply uncomplicating things. @mb - I appreciate your answer and will look into the technologies you mentioned. But, I was hoping to have something as simple as what Intel RST does it on the Windows side. Literally, a set it and forget it proposition. It just works. And I've had several drive failures over the years and the recovery was painless and lossless.
So, I'll keep looking...
Peter
On 2/7/2023 6:16 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Around 1984 or so there was a poster in the Army National Guard building in Tucson that read something like "Keep It Simple Stupid" and went on to say everything should be at an 8th grade level.
>
> I was first introduced to Linux in 1998... I took my first programming course in 1983 at the UofA. I was already out of high school for 8 years.
>
> I've seen a lot of stuff. I've watched things become increasingly Complicated. I've mentioned this before. Most will shine me on.
>
> I'm currently a PHP developer. Over the years I have had my hands in a lot of related technologies.
>
> What you describe Michael Butash sounds very complicated. Most things today seem to be.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think some advancements are good such as Proxmox which I use.
>
> How do we uncomplicated all of this stuff.
>
> -Keith
>
>
>
> On 2023-02-07 16:21, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> That sounds like what they call "fakeraid" using the rst controller,
>> really there is no need to anymore. For probably 15 years now i've
>> used two disks in a linux mdraid volume for boot/rest in raid 1 for
>> redundancy, usually a crypt volume with luks atop the rest physical
>> volume, and lvm atop that, with ext4/xfs atop that. Still do this
>> with nvme disks just fine for a few generations of boxes.
>>
>> I did setup my old desktop as a proxmox box with zfs doing my raid1
>> recently booting entirely off that (super dope, +++ for that), ymmv
>> per distribution, but that's an option as well for handling all the
>> software raid function as well. Ubuntu server with the deb installer
>> always handled setting up raid/crypt/lvm/fs just fine, haven't in a
>> while personally, but probably still does adequately. I diy normally
>> with Arch, but it's what drives this laptop I'm typing on currently
>> with a pair of 980pro nvme samsungs doing above.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 4:04 PM AZ Pete via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Ok, I'm finally very close to being able to go to a full Linux
>>> environment and leave the Microsoft ecosystem. I'm semi-retired and
>>> still do some Microsoft Data Platform work (which was my career). I
>>> recently got a Dell Latitude and put Kubtunu 22.04 on it and managed
>>> to get all my applications, dev tools (many MS tools too!), and
>>> hardware working. I've been down this road before in years past and
>>> Linux on the desktop was always a "no-go" for me. So, I was
>>> *astonished* how easy it was to install Kubuntu and everything just
>>> worked. That's how it must feel to be a Mac person! :)
>>>
>>> However, one of the hurdles with the Dell was that, by default, Dell
>>> configures the BIOS such that the boot drive (NVME in this case) is
>>> set to be in RAID mode instead of AHCI mode, even though there is
>>> only one drive in the system. This caused Ubuntu to simply not boot.
>>> After doing some research I came to find the Ubuntu doesn't support
>>> Intel Rapid Storage Technology (RST), which RAID requires. It was a
>>> simple fix to reconfigure the BIOS into AHCI mode, since I was going
>>> to wipe the Windows partition anyway.
>>>
>>> But, my main production dev box is Win 10 and I have two NVME drives
>>> in a RAID 0 (mirror) configuration (using hardware RAID in the
>>> BIOS). If I want to install Ubuntu I need to be able to implement
>>> this same level of RAID. If Ubuntu doesn't support the Intel RST
>>> hardware, how can I install Ubuntu and have a RAID 0 arrangement?
>>> I'm not looking for a particular answer to the problem just some
>>> suggestions on what to research. LVM? ZFS? Software RAID?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>> Peter
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