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Author: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Michael Butash, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Reliable ISP?
Sorry, CenturyLink.

-mb

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:41 PM <> wrote:

>
> Sorry... who is CL?
>
>
> On 2021-11-18 14:25, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential? I pay
> > $79/mo for CBS for Internet only.
> >
> > Well, admittedly I've not looked at CBS service in a while, I switched
> > from Cox to CL a few years ago when they implemented bandwidth caps,
> > and never really looked back, but that pricing seems not too bad now.
> > Someone probably realized folks were going elsewhere and decided to be
> > more competitive, plus with them offering even gig rates over cable,
> > 50mbps sounds like crap so they can sell it cheaper, but would
> > probably still be adequate for me as that's about what I had on
> > residential when I left cox years ago. My torrents might take a bit
> > longer, but that's ok, and I don't have a house of kids (or even
> > adults) all streaming netflix at the same time to need more.
> >
> > In the past, there was a significant drop in bandwidth for CBS from
> > residential services that took it well over 100 bucks (closer to $200)
> > to get a comparable CBS circuit, and because they've laxed a lot of
> > the port restrictions over the years simply wasn't necessary outside
> > maybe support to get someone out same-day if needed. Even when I
> > worked for them I thought it was overpriced.
> >
> > I can't complain too much about CL other than lately congestion in the
> > evenings I can quantify (which Cox would too), and 125mbps down for
> > $55/mo is a win/win in my book over cox at half the bandwidth and
> > paying some $25 more per month. In the few years I've been with them,
> > I've had no hard outages either. I can still https to my firewall for
> > vpn, all I really need. Something to be said for legacy 2-wire
> > technology where available if you don't need 100's of mbps or gig
> > rates (which most really still don't).
> >
> > -mb
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM <> wrote:
> >
> >> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential? I pay
> >> $79/mo
> >> for CBS for Internet only. I looked into residential a while ago
> >> and
> >> found that after that initial discount the cost of residential
> >> service
> >> for just Internet was about the same.
> >>
> >> The difference I found was T.V. channels. The packages differ.
> >>
> >> I may have hit my limit with running a server... may not need/want
> >> to go
> >> any further. Was satisfying to be able to be able to get things
> >> running
> >> though. Bind and Postfix/Dovecot where the challenges for me.
> >> Especially
> >> Postfix/Dovecot.
> >>
> >> On 2021-11-18 13:15, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>>>> I am told I can rent more static IPs... I assume I will need
> >> some
> >>> hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP unless I am port
> >>> forwarding to different boxes.
> >>>
> >>> Not really, just about any *nix-y system can accommodate that with
> >> NAT
> >>> as a firewall/router/gateway, whatever you want to call it, with
> >> one
> >>> ip or many. Even basic WRT-based systems ala netgear/linksys can
> >> tend
> >>> to handle this in theory with basic network iptables features.
> >>> Probably best would be something like pfsync, which there is
> >> plenty of
> >>> cheap gateway hardware out there that can run it, or any older
> >> (ie.
> >>> cheap) enterprise firewalls.
> >>>
> >>> Old days the biggest reason for multiple ip's was SSL requiring
> >> 1:1 IP
> >>> to DNS binding, but this has gotten easier out of necessity with
> >> use
> >>> of Subject Alternative Names (SAN) as part of the certs. If you
> >> need
> >>> the same external port being forwarded to multiple internal
> >>> ports/services is about the only other reason for multiple ip's,
> >> but
> >>> as long as you can define separate ports for what is connecting to
> >> it,
> >>> not so much.
> >>>
> >>> When you get to the point you want to do so, more than few of us
> >> have
> >>> probably done so to help you through it and understand the
> >> concepts
> >>> once you know what you need/want to do.
> >>>
> >>>>> Cox Business does not block any ports.
> >>>
> >>> The only residential ports they block really relevant these days
> >> is 80
> >>> for http (not 443/https, so why 80??), and smtp for email, but
> >> these
> >>> days there is little reason to run your own smtp server unless
> >> you're
> >>> just doing it to do it or honeypot spammers trying to hit you 24/7
> >> for
> >>> no good reasons. I'd run sslvpn for remote access on https/443
> >> just
> >>> fine on res service, I just need to make sure to type https://.
> >>>
> >>>>> I am satisfied with Cox Business
> >>>
> >>> CBS service is just pricey (compared to residential) to begin
> >> with,
> >>> unlimited bandwidth and unblocked ports or not imho, but otherwise
> >>> about the best/cheapest "business class" service/support you can
> >> get,
> >>> if you can get it in your hood.
> >>>
> >>> -mb
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 12:04 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>> <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've had a Cox Business account for maybe 8 years. I've only had
> >>>> one
> >>>> outage, and it was short. My package is a home office type of
> >> plan.
> >>>> I
> >>>> am currently running a LAMP + BIND + Postfix + Dovecot on a
> >> laptop
> >>>> on my
> >>>> single static IP. I am told I can rent more static IPs... I
> >> assume
> >>>> I
> >>>> will need some hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP
> >>>> unless
> >>>> I am port forwarding to different boxes.
> >>>> I configured this server on a laptop to see if I could do it. I
> >> am
> >>>> a
> >>>> PHP dev, with some light LAMP server experience. I still have a
> >> lot
> >>>> to
> >>>> learn.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cox Business does not block any ports.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cox tells me there will never be any overages because on my plan
> >> I
> >>>> purchase a set up and down which cannot be exceeded.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am satisfied with Cox Business
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2021-11-14 11:21, Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>>>> Any recommendations for a reliable ISP?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (Couldn't find any recent discussion in the PLUG archives, so am
> >>>>> asking here.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I currently have a business account (I'm running a small server
> >> on
> >>>> a
> >>>>> static public IP address for my business), but am having a
> >>>> *terrible*
> >>>>> time with my current ISP. Worked *great* for about a year, but
> >>>> have
> >>>>> been having daily outages for about a month now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don't even want to say the name for fear of being sued for
> >> libel.
> >>>> They
> >>>>> were honest enough to admit it is an "internal issue", and have
> >> no
> >>>> ETA
> >>>>> on a fix. "[Their] technicians continue to work to resolve the
> >>>>> problem in [my] neighborhood. Currently, there is no estimated
> >>>> time
> >>>>> for when service will be restored."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I get the feeling they don't have a grasp on the problem, as
> >> when
> >>>> I
> >>>>> call their status line they report an outage even when the
> >> system
> >>>> is
> >>>>> up. When my connection goes down, a modem reboot sometimes (but
> >>>> not
> >>>>> always) gets me connected again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Speed is not an issue. But reliability is! Any suggestions
> >> would
> >>>> be
> >>>>> greatly appreciated.
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