I should have done more research. My apologies about Gates and his
farmland.
On 2021-08-03 10:12, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> I'd like to point out that while you say global warming is bunk (I'm
> not saying it is or it isn't) but then you throw out a crazy theory of
> Bill Gates taking control because he has about 300k in acres of
> farmland. Having the most doesn't mean all, there are still 910
> million more acres of farmland he doesn't control.
>
> The problem we are facing is too much misinformation and not enough
> people that can figure out which is the bad information. On all sorts
> of topics.
>
> And these usually end up being shouting matches.
>
> So my vote goes to close the topic.
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I am one of the main offenders and I apologize.
>>
>> I appreciate you Michael. You were one of the people who responded
>> to
>> my questions about Postfix/Dovecot. I am further along and have a
>> functioning server, however Postfix/Dovecot is still too much of a
>> mystery to me. I need to learn more.
>>
>> Michael, your post made me think. This tread started by discussing
>> a
>> political faction that wants to impose their will on us.
>>
>> We are a political organization even if we think we are not. Lets
>> look
>> a possible scenario.
>>
>> As you may not know Bill Gates is the single biggest owner of farm
>> land.
>> That should scare you. What if he does not farm that land for a
>> year?
>> That could cause severe food shortages. Who's your daddy?
>>
>> A little closer to home. Bill Gates uses his influence (money) to
>> gain
>> control of some key players and next thing you know Linux is banned
>> because evil hackers use it to hack other people's servers... Now
>> the
>> Government is telling us we MUST use Windows only. The entire Apple
>>
>> apparatus is undone and Linux is illegal.
>>
>> So we must be politically involved to some degree.
>>
>> On 2021-08-03 07:38, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> Ugh, these pseudo political/religious threads are best served
>>> elsewhere, perhaps create a plug-politics group so the CNN vs. Fox
>>> News crowds to argue in. Otherwise, can we just go back to
>> technology
>>> and not how much the world sucks these days? Tired of checking
>> the
>>> list for new updates with this drivel, if I wanted politics, I'd
>> hit a
>>> cancerous mailing list built for it.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 7:15 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In spite of my beliefs that there is no global warming I would
>> like
>>>> to
>>>> convert my house to all electric and put as much solar on my roof
>> as
>>>> it
>>>> will take. My goal is net zero house budget.
>>>> If possible I'd like to have no electric or gas bill and generate
>>>> enough
>>>> electricity that my rebate would pay for my property taxes and
>>>> water/sewer bill.
>>>>
>>>> This is the right thing to do for me. I do not like all the
>>>> chemicals
>>>> that go into solar ... but what are you going to do?
>>>>
>>>> I see there are a number of auto manufactures that are getting
>> into
>>>> the
>>>> electric vehicle production. I'd like one as a toy. What I
>> really
>>>> would like for my daily driver is a 1969 SS 396 4 speed nova. I
>> had
>>>> a
>>>> number of muscle cars and it has been my goal to own another one
>>>> before
>>>> I die.
>>>>
>>>> Some want to bring the left and the right together. I think it
>> is
>>>> impossible. Steve you believe in global warming and potentially
>> a
>>>> number of other left leaning ideologies. I on the other hand do
>> not
>>>>
>>>> believe in a lot of that stuff and just want to live free.
>>>>
>>>> Another thing we need as Americans is revival. We need to turn
>> back
>>>> to
>>>> God and make Jesus our Lord and Savior.
>>>>
>>>> Why has the USA driven the global markets for some time in the
>> past?
>>>>
>>>> God's provision.
>>>>
>>>> On 2021-08-02 12:21, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Matthew Gibson said on Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:56:48 -0700
>>>>>
>>>>>> And if you have your way we will be looking a lot like
>> Venezuela
>>>> or
>>>>>> Cuba.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if you have your way, 2060 Americans would gleefully trade
>>>> places
>>>>> with today's Venezuelans or Cubans.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, aside from attempting to force your will upon me and
>>>> society,
>>>>>> what can you personally do to lower your carbon footprint?
>>>>>
>>>>> The preceding is a good question, one that I and every other
>>>> person
>>>>> needs to consider and answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Already I use LED bulbs everywhere, I drive my 2.0 liter Jeep
>> less
>>>> than
>>>>> 8000 miles a year, I run my summer thermostat at 78 farenheit.
>>>> That's
>>>>> the starting point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to this discussion I've been watching my activities. I
>>>> currently
>>>>> use purified cold water from the fridge to make my hot tea.
>> That's
>>>>> stupid: I need to find a way to filter water without
>> refrigerating
>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get better attic insulation. This costs quite a bit of
>>>> money, but
>>>>> it's the right thing to do and will save money in the long run.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can keep my backup server turned off except when doing
>> backups.
>>>> I
>>>>> already do this most of the time: I could do it all of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get my ceiling fans repaired/replaced so we can run the
>>>>> thermostat at 79 or 80 degrees.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll continue contemplating your question. It's an excellent
>> one.
>>>>>
>>>>> SteveT
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Litt
>>>>> Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the
>>>> Successful
>>>>> Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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