I should have done more research. My apologies about Gates and his farmland. On 2021-08-03 10:12, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I'd like to point out that while you say global warming is bunk (I'm > not saying it is or it isn't) but then you throw out a crazy theory of > Bill Gates taking control because he has about 300k in acres of > farmland. Having the most doesn't mean all, there are still 910 > million more acres of farmland he doesn't control. > > The problem we are facing is too much misinformation and not enough > people that can figure out which is the bad information. On all sorts > of topics. > > And these usually end up being shouting matches. > > So my vote goes to close the topic. > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> I am one of the main offenders and I apologize. >> >> I appreciate you Michael. You were one of the people who responded >> to >> my questions about Postfix/Dovecot. I am further along and have a >> functioning server, however Postfix/Dovecot is still too much of a >> mystery to me. I need to learn more. >> >> Michael, your post made me think. This tread started by discussing >> a >> political faction that wants to impose their will on us. >> >> We are a political organization even if we think we are not. Lets >> look >> a possible scenario. >> >> As you may not know Bill Gates is the single biggest owner of farm >> land. >> That should scare you. What if he does not farm that land for a >> year? >> That could cause severe food shortages. Who's your daddy? >> >> A little closer to home. Bill Gates uses his influence (money) to >> gain >> control of some key players and next thing you know Linux is banned >> because evil hackers use it to hack other people's servers... Now >> the >> Government is telling us we MUST use Windows only. The entire Apple >> >> apparatus is undone and Linux is illegal. >> >> So we must be politically involved to some degree. >> >> On 2021-08-03 07:38, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> Ugh, these pseudo political/religious threads are best served >>> elsewhere, perhaps create a plug-politics group so the CNN vs. Fox >>> News crowds to argue in. Otherwise, can we just go back to >> technology >>> and not how much the world sucks these days? Tired of checking >> the >>> list for new updates with this drivel, if I wanted politics, I'd >> hit a >>> cancerous mailing list built for it. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 7:15 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In spite of my beliefs that there is no global warming I would >> like >>>> to >>>> convert my house to all electric and put as much solar on my roof >> as >>>> it >>>> will take. My goal is net zero house budget. >>>> If possible I'd like to have no electric or gas bill and generate >>>> enough >>>> electricity that my rebate would pay for my property taxes and >>>> water/sewer bill. >>>> >>>> This is the right thing to do for me. I do not like all the >>>> chemicals >>>> that go into solar ... but what are you going to do? >>>> >>>> I see there are a number of auto manufactures that are getting >> into >>>> the >>>> electric vehicle production. I'd like one as a toy. What I >> really >>>> would like for my daily driver is a 1969 SS 396 4 speed nova. I >> had >>>> a >>>> number of muscle cars and it has been my goal to own another one >>>> before >>>> I die. >>>> >>>> Some want to bring the left and the right together. I think it >> is >>>> impossible. Steve you believe in global warming and potentially >> a >>>> number of other left leaning ideologies. I on the other hand do >> not >>>> >>>> believe in a lot of that stuff and just want to live free. >>>> >>>> Another thing we need as Americans is revival. We need to turn >> back >>>> to >>>> God and make Jesus our Lord and Savior. >>>> >>>> Why has the USA driven the global markets for some time in the >> past? >>>> >>>> God's provision. >>>> >>>> On 2021-08-02 12:21, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>> Matthew Gibson said on Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:56:48 -0700 >>>>> >>>>>> And if you have your way we will be looking a lot like >> Venezuela >>>> or >>>>>> Cuba. >>>>> >>>>> And if you have your way, 2060 Americans would gleefully trade >>>> places >>>>> with today's Venezuelans or Cubans. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Now, aside from attempting to force your will upon me and >>>> society, >>>>>> what can you personally do to lower your carbon footprint? >>>>> >>>>> The preceding is a good question, one that I and every other >>>> person >>>>> needs to consider and answer. >>>>> >>>>> Already I use LED bulbs everywhere, I drive my 2.0 liter Jeep >> less >>>> than >>>>> 8000 miles a year, I run my summer thermostat at 78 farenheit. >>>> That's >>>>> the starting point. >>>>> >>>>> Due to this discussion I've been watching my activities. I >>>> currently >>>>> use purified cold water from the fridge to make my hot tea. >> That's >>>>> stupid: I need to find a way to filter water without >> refrigerating >>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> I can get better attic insulation. This costs quite a bit of >>>> money, but >>>>> it's the right thing to do and will save money in the long run. >>>>> >>>>> I can keep my backup server turned off except when doing >> backups. >>>> I >>>>> already do this most of the time: I could do it all of the time. >>>>> >>>>> I can get my ceiling fans repaired/replaced so we can run the >>>>> thermostat at 79 or 80 degrees. >>>>> >>>>> I'll continue contemplating your question. It's an excellent >> one. >>>>> >>>>> SteveT >>>>> >>>>> Steve Litt >>>>> Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the >>>> Successful >>>>> Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss