Looking at those tests it seems the 17% seems to be in memory speed not
CPU speed. The biggest difference was 13 seconds for a winter compression.
I would get 2 16gb sticks instead of 2 8gb sticks then, if you don't want
the single hit. My point is if you use 8gb sticks and fill the slots to
32gb and decide you need more you wasted money on the 8gb sticks. I
personally will put 32gb sticks in my machine when I upgrade.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 9:35 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> You can do that but you will take a speed hit. Computers these days will
> read the RAM in pairs for a speed increase. The testing in the article
> below saw a 17.7% speed increase by using dual channel memory on some loads.
>
>
> https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 7/19/20 9:24 AM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if you
> ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller
> sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you
> might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
>>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
>>> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
>>> have!
>>> *-usb:0
>>> *-usbhost
>>> bus info: usb@1
>>> logical name: usb1
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb
>>> bus info: usb@1:1
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb:1
>>> *-usbhost
>>> bus info: usb@2
>>> logical name: usb2
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb
>>> bus info: usb@2:1
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb:0
>>> bus info: usb@2:1.4
>>> capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>>> configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>>> *-usb:1
>>> bus info: usb@2:1.7
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb:0
>>> bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
>>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
>>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>> *-usb:1
>>> bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
>>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>> *-usb:2
>>> bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>>> configuration: driver=usb-storage
>>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
>>> > power supply to support that many hard drives. If you could get that
>>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
>>> > rather quickly on a NUC. You would need to get some sort of external
>>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it
>>> > work right. I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the
>>> enclosure
>>> > also is USB3. USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
>>> >
>>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a
>>> > mini PCIe port. Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't
>>> bottle
>>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second.
>>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
>>> > instantly. Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds. Login
>>> > times are virtually instant. When you first get one, you will tell
>>> your
>>> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
>>> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen
>>> in
>>> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
>>> >
>>> > Brian Cluff
>>> >
>>> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of
>>> use.
>>> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about
>>> doing
>>> > > with the NUC?
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>>> > > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place
>>> for
>>> > >> at least 1 NVMe. Then I would recommend that you get at least one
>>> > >> NVMe. It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least your
>>> OS
>>> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster
>>> than
>>> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will be
>>> > >> worth every cent to get it.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now. You can
>>> get a
>>> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> BTW What's the price range you are looking at spending?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Brian Cluff
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a
>>> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein
>>> the
>>> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old
>>> machine
>>> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I
>>> frankenstein?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before.....
>>> I'm
>>> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
>>> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a
>>> chassis and
>>> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an
>>> animal
>>> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what
>>> they
>>> > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a windows machine
>>> in the sales?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
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