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Author: Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
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To: plug-discuss
CC: Brian Cluff
Subject: Re: New computer.
You can do that but you will take a speed hit.  Computers these days
will read the RAM in pairs for a speed increase.  The testing in the
article below saw a 17.7% speed increase by using dual channel memory on
some loads.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel

Brian Cluff

On 7/19/20 9:24 AM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if
> you ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the
> smaller sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever
> think you might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb
> memory stick.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
> <
> <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>
>     Just an idea and ballpark cost.

>
>     On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss
>     <
>     <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:

>
>         yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered
>         separately.
>         As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
>         only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
>         have!
>                 *-usb:0
>                    *-usbhost
>                         bus info: usb@1
>                         logical name: usb1
>                         capabilities: usb-2.00
>                       *-usb
>                            bus info: usb@1:1
>                            capabilities: usb-2.00
>                 *-usb:1
>                    *-usbhost
>                         bus info: usb@2
>                         logical name: usb2
>                         capabilities: usb-2.00
>                       *-usb
>                            bus info: usb@2:1
>                            capabilities: usb-2.00
>                          *-usb:0
>                               bus info: usb@2:1.4
>                               capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>                               configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>                          *-usb:1
>                               bus info: usb@2:1.7
>                               capabilities: usb-2.00
>                             *-usb:0
>                                  bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
>                                  capabilities: usb-1.10
>                                  configuration: driver=usbhid
>         maxpower=100mA
>         speed=2Mbit/s
>                             *-usb:1
>                                  bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
>                                  capabilities: usb-2.00
>                                  configuration: driver=usbhid
>         maxpower=98mA
>         speed=2Mbit/s
>                             *-usb:2
>                                  bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
>                                  capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated
>         scsi-host
>                                  configuration: driver=usb-storage
>         maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s

>
>         On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>         <
>         <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>         >
>         > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a
>         big enough
>         > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could
>         get that
>         > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive
>         to fail
>         > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of
>         external
>         > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply
>         to make it
>         > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and
>         the enclosure
>         > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully
>         slow.

>         >
>         > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached
>         directly to a
>         > mini PCIe port.  Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it
>         isn't bottle
>         > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes
>         per second.
>         > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
>         > instantly.  Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3
>         seconds.  Login
>         > times are virtually instant.  When you first get one, you
>         will tell your
>         > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout
>         until you
>         > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the
>         login screen in
>         > less time than your old computer could just logout.

>         >
>         > Brian Cluff

>         >
>         > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>         > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2
>         years of use.
>         > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking
>         about doing
>         > > with the NUC?

>         > >
>         > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>         > > <
>         <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>         > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.

>         > >>
>         > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that
>         has a place for
>         > >> at least 1 NVMe.  Then I would recommend that you get at
>         least one
>         > >> NVMe.  It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at
>         least your OS
>         > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50
>         times faster than
>         > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me,
>         it will be
>         > >> worth every cent to get it.

>         > >>
>         > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now. 
>         You can get a
>         > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.

>         > >>
>         > >> BTW  What's the price range you are looking at spending?

>         > >>
>         > >> Brian Cluff

>         > >>
>         > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>         > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going
>         to buy a
>         > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then
>         frankenstein the
>         > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from
>         the old machine
>         > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I
>         frankenstein?

>         > >>>
>         > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael
>         < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>         > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done
>         before..... I'm
>         > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
>         > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to
>         get a chassis and
>         > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is
>         such an animal
>         > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't
>         like what they
>         > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a
>         windows machine in the sales?

>         > >>>>
>         > >>>> --
>         > >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:

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