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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: android question
One of my favorite sites to start on is xda

On Sun, May 26, 2019, 12:21 PM Todd Cole <> wrote:

> interesting I have a Samsung S5 with Teamwin with SUroot and LinageOS ver
> 16 and openGapps aroma built from android 9 rooted for over three years
> other than flashing to a new version rom too early I have not had any
> issues even with google apps but I only use a few but was able to buy
> several apps.
>
> There have been several court cases regarding root and custom roms but
> last I have seen is 100% legal to modify your phone. Software might be
> another issue but sofar I have not heard of any legal cases.
> the first time it took me three days so it is not a quick easy project but
> for me it was well worth the work to have root and a terminal. drive droid
> I use very often to install linux from my phone. and battery is better
> speed is better
> and access to newer apps and able to remove unneeded apps. and I am happy
> with my old phone sd card and able to change batteries if needed.
>
> not all phone can be rooted and or custom roms available. and do backup
> your image just in case. I have only had to flash it back to stock on a
> early rom to activate my phone but current version work fine
> XDA LinageOS are the best places to start reading
>
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 10:49 AM Stephen Partington <>
> wrote:
>
>> Magisk has worked very well for me. With only a couple of hiccups.
>>
>> On Sun, May 26, 2019, 10:31 AM Michael Butash <> wrote:
>>
>>> See Inline:
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 5:05 AM <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Will not have root unless your phone is rooted.
>>>> I've been toying with this idea for a while...
>>>> What am I up against?
>>>>
>>> Hardware bootloader locking on all devices is the first problem. Need
>>> to unlock that first, replace the loader, then os (as unlocking tends to
>>> wipe the flash).
>>> Or you need an os exploit, which is pretty rare if using a modern os 5.1
>>> and up. Kingoroot and some others exploit the os to soft root on older
>>> devices, but just have to check compatibility.
>>>
>>>
>>>> What are the risks?
>>>>
>>> Depending on phone, you might lose some functionality rooting. For
>>> example, Sony liked to kill their extended camera and media features. They
>>> still offer, and always have open bootloder unlocking.
>>> You also tend to lose access to google pay or any other *pay features,
>>> as they no longer trust your hardware device.
>>> It also makes it easier for a 3rd party to access and do whatever to
>>> your phone, such as install even more covert malware on the linux side,
>>> modify android from underneath, back up your apps and all system data for
>>> forensics, etc.
>>> Think of the stories of the border guards grabbing and dumping your
>>> phone (and doing who knows what else while in their possession and
>>> unlocked).
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can you hide it from your carrier?
>>>>
>>> I think this depends on the phone and os level, but Magisk does this
>>> supposedly. I've not tried it myself, my past few phones I haven't rooted
>>> (see Risks).
>>>
>>>
>>>> Can you recover the phone phone if you botch it...
>>>>
>>> Depends largely on the phone. Step 1 is always unlocking the bootloader
>>> and replacing it with twrp or cwm loaders. Once that is there, you can 99%
>>> recover a device. Screw that up, you may or may not have a brick.
>>>
>>> Best thing you can do is look up your device you want to root on xda
>>> forums, and see if anyone else has already, and how.
>>>
>>> ET
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephen Partington writes:
>>>>
>>>> > Install one from the play store.
>>>> >
>>>> > Will not have root unless your phone is rooted.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, May 25, 2019, 6:09 PM David Lopez <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> does anyone know how to get a terminal window up on android phone.
>>>> >> what i'm thinking is to issue 'ls' commands etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> david
>>>> >>
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>>>> >> David López
>>>> >> Software Engineer
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