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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: android question
Magisk has worked very well for me. With only a couple of hiccups.

On Sun, May 26, 2019, 10:31 AM Michael Butash <> wrote:

> See Inline:
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 5:05 AM <> wrote:
>
>> > Will not have root unless your phone is rooted.
>> I've been toying with this idea for a while...
>> What am I up against?
>>
> Hardware bootloader locking on all devices is the first problem. Need to
> unlock that first, replace the loader, then os (as unlocking tends to wipe
> the flash).
> Or you need an os exploit, which is pretty rare if using a modern os 5.1
> and up. Kingoroot and some others exploit the os to soft root on older
> devices, but just have to check compatibility.
>
>
>> What are the risks?
>>
> Depending on phone, you might lose some functionality rooting. For
> example, Sony liked to kill their extended camera and media features. They
> still offer, and always have open bootloder unlocking.
> You also tend to lose access to google pay or any other *pay features, as
> they no longer trust your hardware device.
> It also makes it easier for a 3rd party to access and do whatever to your
> phone, such as install even more covert malware on the linux side, modify
> android from underneath, back up your apps and all system data for
> forensics, etc.
> Think of the stories of the border guards grabbing and dumping your phone
> (and doing who knows what else while in their possession and unlocked).
>
>
>> Can you hide it from your carrier?
>>
> I think this depends on the phone and os level, but Magisk does this
> supposedly. I've not tried it myself, my past few phones I haven't rooted
> (see Risks).
>
>
>> Can you recover the phone phone if you botch it...
>>
> Depends largely on the phone. Step 1 is always unlocking the bootloader
> and replacing it with twrp or cwm loaders. Once that is there, you can 99%
> recover a device. Screw that up, you may or may not have a brick.
>
> Best thing you can do is look up your device you want to root on xda
> forums, and see if anyone else has already, and how.
>
> ET
>>
>>
>> Stephen Partington writes:
>>
>> > Install one from the play store.
>> >
>> > Will not have root unless your phone is rooted.
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 25, 2019, 6:09 PM David Lopez <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> does anyone know how to get a terminal window up on android phone.
>> >> what i'm thinking is to issue 'ls' commands etc.
>> >>
>> >> david
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David López
>> >> Software Engineer
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