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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
It will use 80 and fallback to 443 the synology clients just does 443

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Todd Cole <> wrote: 

> I think lets encrypt only uses port 80 outbound and 443 outbound so one
> should be able to use it on any port incoming but to be honest most of my
> servers are personal self signed on irregular ports
> and the few public servers are lets encrypt with a external redirect so
> that it is easier to maintain at home...    1Thousand ways to do the same
> thing
> https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/required-ports-to-run-
> lets-encrypt/36101/3

>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Partington <>
> wrote:
>
>> the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt
>> cert call requires 80, and only 80.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight
>>> ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when
>>> allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back
>>> then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering
>>> https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life
>>> easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your
>>> users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect
>>> service in front as mentioned.
>>>
>>> Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my
>>> hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives
>>> me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my
>>> SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various
>>> pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients
>>> for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my
>>> hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions).
>>>
>>> I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering
>>> on kickstarter even.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and
>>>> a port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so:
>>>>>
>>>>> moin moin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not
>>>>> using Cox residential :).
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports.
>>>>> You
>>>>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all
>>>>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or
>>>>> SMTP services.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll
>>>>> have
>>>>> to contact them to request RR records.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I
>>>>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One
>>>>> was
>>>>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years
>>>>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer
>>>>> service.
>>>>>
>>>>> ciao,
>>>>>
>>>>> der.hans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get
>>>>>>> there from
>>>>>>> here Dept.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
>>>>>>> company
>>>>>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yep. :)
>>>>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>>>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site
>>>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this
>>>>>>>> way, if
>>>>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will
>>>>>>>> definitely be
>>>>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>>>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an
>>>>>>>> SDR on
>>>>>>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a
>>>>>>>> raspberry pie
>>>>>>>> late generation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>>>>>>> unlimited.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
>>>>>>>> runs
>>>>>>>> like a champ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>>>>>>>>> monthly usage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
>>>>>>>>> Kb/sec.
>>>>>>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or
>>>>>>>>> about 64
>>>>>>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so
>>>>>>>>> far as I
>>>>>>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>>>>>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical
>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>> standard residential circuit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB
>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet
>>>>>>>>> streaming
>>>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>>>>>>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use
>>>>>>>>> if you
>>>>>>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LAME!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>>>>>>>>> tml?zip=85228
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb.
>>>>>>>>>> Could be a
>>>>>>>>>> typo,
>>>>>>>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>>>>>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and
>>>>>>>>>> basically pay
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i
>>>>>>>>>>> use way
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the
>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps
>>>>>>>>>>>> download,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $100 per
>>>>>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am very pleased with this service.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric Oyen" <>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mbits
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $35 a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> residential service (including tv).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Oyen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Referrals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> promised land would be very welcome!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" <>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the fiber that you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all have to run from a script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referred you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric OYen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referrals Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asked for a supervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of irritated by this ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrapped in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1TB a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why can't I have this happiness?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AloneAndHopless ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
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