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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
the only thing I care about for HTTP at all is my Synology letsencypt cert
call requires 80, and only 80.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight
> ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when
> allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back
> then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering
> https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life
> easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your
> users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect service
> in front as mentioned.
>
> Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my
> hosts vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives
> me always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my
> SDN network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various
> pi/arm linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients
> for free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my
> hosts, minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions).
>
> I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering on
> kickstarter even.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington <>
> wrote:
>
>> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a
>> port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>>>> this
>>>> for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not
>>> using Cox residential :).
>>>
>>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You
>>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked.
>>>
>>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all
>>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25.
>>>
>>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or
>>> SMTP services.
>>>
>>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have
>>> to contact them to request RR records.
>>>
>>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I
>>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was
>>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years
>>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer
>>> service.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> -eric
>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>>>>> from
>>>>> here Dept.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
>>>>> company
>>>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around
>>>>> the
>>>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> yep. :)
>>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site
>>>>>> (which
>>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will
>>>>>> definitely be
>>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a
>>>>>> raspberry pie
>>>>>> late generation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>>>>> unlimited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
>>>>>> runs
>>>>>> like a champ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>>>>>>> monthly usage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
>>>>>>> Kb/sec.
>>>>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or
>>>>>>> about 64
>>>>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so
>>>>>>> far as I
>>>>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>>>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>> standard residential circuit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>>>>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LAME!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>>>>>>> tml?zip=85228
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>> typo,
>>>>>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>>>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i
>>>>>>>>> use way
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the
>>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps
>>>>>>>>>> download,
>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above
>>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100
>>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am very pleased with this service.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric Oyen" <>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site
>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits
>>>>>>>>>>> for only
>>>>>>>>>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> $35 a
>>>>>>>>>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> residential service (including tv).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric Oyen
>>>>>>>>>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support
>>>>>>>>>>> Referrals
>>>>>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get
>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>> promised land would be very welcome!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo.
>>>>>>>>>>> He is
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> access to the fiber that you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer
>>>>>>>>>>>> service are
>>>>>>>>>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk
>>>>>>>>>>>> knows
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> all have to run from a script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell
>>>>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> referred you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric OYen
>>>>>>>>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet
>>>>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>>> referrals Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Asked for a supervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of irritated by this ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrapped in
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that
>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1TB a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why can't I have this happiness?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>> AloneAndHopless ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in
>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
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