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Author: Michael Butash
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Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
Agreed here about just doing https, I've just always used straight
ipsec/openvpn, or later a https sslvpn to connect home to things when
allowed. Never really had a need otherwise to host 80 or smtp, and back
then they even blocked 443. At some point later they stopped filtering
https (think Partington mentioned this - thanks again!), which made life
easier at least to present some form of web externally, so long as your
users were smart enough to put https:// first, or use a redirect service in
front as mentioned.

Past few years, I use https://www.zerotier.com for connecting all my hosts
vs. traditional vpn to connect behind firewalls/filters, which gives me
always on vpn between any of my hosts that run the client and join my SDN
network there. Runs on pretty much everything, including my various pi/arm
linux systems, android, whatever really, and give you 100 clients for
free. This gives me essentially a layer 2 network between all my hosts,
minus multicast propagation (damn mdns address restrictions).

I love this service, and recently noticed they have a hardware offering on
kickstarter even.

-mb


On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephen Partington <>
wrote:

> My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a
> port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
>
>> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this
>>> for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>>
>>
>> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not
>> using Cox residential :).
>>
>> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You
>> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked.
>>
>> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all
>> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25.
>>
>> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or
>> SMTP services.
>>
>> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have
>> to contact them to request RR records.
>>
>> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I
>> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was
>> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years
>> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer
>> service.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>>
>>>> -eric
>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>>>> from
>>>> here Dept.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company
>>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the
>>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yep. :)
>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site
>>>>> (which
>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way,
>>>>> if
>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will
>>>>> definitely be
>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>>>
>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on
>>>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry
>>>>> pie
>>>>> late generation.
>>>>>
>>>>> -eric
>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>>>> unlimited.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs
>>>>> like a champ.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> well,
>>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>>>>>> monthly usage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec.
>>>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or
>>>>>> about 64
>>>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so
>>>>>> far as I
>>>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> standard residential circuit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some
>>>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>>>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LAME!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>>>>>> tml?zip=85228
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>> typo,
>>>>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the
>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps
>>>>>>>>> download,
>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100
>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>>> I am very pleased with this service.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric Oyen" <>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site
>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits
>>>>>>>>>> for only
>>>>>>>>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about
>>>>>>>>>> $35 a
>>>>>>>>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> residential service (including tv).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric Oyen
>>>>>>>>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support
>>>>>>>>>> Referrals
>>>>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> promised land would be very welcome!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer
>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might
>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> access to the fiber that you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer
>>>>>>>>>>> service are
>>>>>>>>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> all have to run from a script.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> referred you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric OYen
>>>>>>>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet
>>>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>> referrals Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Asked for a supervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of irritated by this ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ...
>>>>>>>>>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that
>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-(
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why can't I have this happiness?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> AloneAndHopless ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> deals
>>>>>>>>>>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to
>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
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