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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
My solution is to run everything on https with a lets encrypt cert and a
port 80 to 443 redirect via my Domain registrar.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, der.hans <> wrote:

> Am 19. Nov, 2017 schwätzte kelly stephenson so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this
>> for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>
>
> Cox residential blocks ports. I have gotten around it for years by not
> using Cox residential :).
>
> Most of the time I've used Cox business, which will allow all ports. You
> might have to request 80 and 25 get unblocked.
>
> I have also used Century Link residential, which will also allow all
> ports. You will have to specifically request unblocking for port 25.
>
> Both will let you know if they're getting complaints about your web or
> SMTP services.
>
> Both give you a static IP and the option to rent out a block. You'll have
> to contact them to request RR records.
>
> In my experience, Cox doesn't understand the concept of a static IP. I
> have had 3 yanked out from me with at most a couple days notice. One was
> zero notice because they didn't notice my IP was in use. That was years
> ago, but I was obviously massively underimpressed with Cox customer
> service.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>
>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>>> from
>>> here Dept.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company
>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the
>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>
>>> yep. :)
>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site
>>>> (which
>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely
>>>> be
>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>>
>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on
>>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry
>>>> pie
>>>> late generation.
>>>>
>>>> -eric
>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>>> unlimited.
>>>>
>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs
>>>> like a champ.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> well,
>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>>>>> monthly usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec.
>>>>> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about
>>>>> 64
>>>>> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far
>>>>> as I
>>>>> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for
>>>>> a
>>>>> standard residential circuit.
>>>>>
>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some
>>>>> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for
>>>>> the
>>>>> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about
>>>>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -eric
>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
>>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> LAME!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>>>>> tml?zip=85228
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
>>>>>> be a
>>>>>> typo,
>>>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> drop
>>>>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>>>>>> pay
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the
>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps
>>>>>>>> download,
>>>>>>>> 30
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above
>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100 per
>>>>>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>>> I am very pleased with this service.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric Oyen" <>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am
>>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site
>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits
>>>>>>>>> for only
>>>>>>>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for about
>>>>>>>>> $35 a
>>>>>>>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would be
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> residential service (including tv).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric Oyen
>>>>>>>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support Referrals
>>>>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> promised land would be very welcome!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer
>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> access to the fiber that you want.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer
>>>>>>>>>> service are
>>>>>>>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk knows
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> all have to run from a script.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell him
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> referred you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric OYen
>>>>>>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet services
>>>>>>>>>> referrals Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Asked for a supervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind of irritated by this ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ...
>>>>>>>>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that
>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB a
>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth a month.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy with
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> Why can't I have this happiness?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> AloneAndHopless ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in our
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the
>>>>>>>>>>> deals
>>>>>>>>>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade to
>>>>>>>>>>> this.
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