Jumping a little late . .
"So what if they get paid $10-$20k lower annual salaries?" <-- not even
close where I work. How about $60-80K lower?
My employer pays Tata Consulting $66K/year for DBA's. They keep 1/3 so
the H1B worker gets $44K. That's $22/hr - soon to be just double
minimum wage. This H1B worker usually comes with a Master's Degree in
Computer Science or similar.
Find me one American with a Graduate Degree in Science willing to work
for $22/hr. Yes, the struggle is real to find talent [that will work
for peanuts]. Almost everyone I know makes more than that, except those
in the fast-food industry. So where's the incentive to get a degree?
I call it "exploitation."
Regards,
George Toft
On 11/8/2016 10:46 AM, David Schwartz wrote:
>
> More propaganda from right-wing pro-corporate anti-American talking
> heads about a topic they are ill-informed about.
>
> (Most Americans have no clue about US immigraion laws.)
>
> The recent Defense Appropriations Budget opened the floodgates to H-1B
> visas, thanks to non-stop lobbying from large US tech firms like
> Microsoft, Oracle, Apple, Dell, etc.
>
> I saw something a while back on cable channel that covers congress,
> and it was a public meeting of some sort about H-1B issues.
> Representatives from Microsoft, HP, and some huge consulting firm.
>
> One interesting thing they all agreed upon was that their budget for
> prosecuting each H-1B visa was $50k. This was ONLY for the legal fees!
> Then there was salary, benefits, relocation, and later on the legal
> fees and relocation expenses for their family members.
>
> Forget about annual salaries for a minute, which I don’t believe are
> really that much lower for people residing here in America and
> awaiting permanent residency (green cards).
>
> Here’s what job offers for US Citizens would look like if they were
> comparable to H-1B offers:
>
> *
>
> $50k hiring bonus (used for legal fees)
>
> *
>
> Full relocation (from overseas, way more expensive than even
> across country in USA)
>
> *
>
> Guaranteed job for 6-10 years (how long it takes for green cards
> to issue)
>
> *
>
> Guaranteed on-the-job training for whatever new projects these
> people are destined to fill during their 6-10 year tenure
>
> *
>
> Full relocation to other cities that might have projects these
> people can fill to keep employed
>
> *
>
> Tacit agreement to never complain, never file any kind of labor
> actions or lawsuits against the company for any reason at all
>
> So what if they get paid $10-$20k lower annual salaries?
>
> Would YOU accept a job with these “benefits” for a slightly lower
> salary like this???
>
> -David Schwartz
>
> On Nov 8, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Keith Smith
> <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> While at the polls I talked with a man running for Chandler City
> Council who told me the H1B Visa was necessary because there are
> not enough qualified Americans to fill those positions.
>
> I do not agree. And if it is true then why, for example, is there
> no Microsoft University that finds those with the talent and help
> develop them into the qualified employee they are looking for? It
> is my understanding M$ is one of the biggest users of the H1B Visa
> program.
>
> This is an example of there not being an shortage. -->> McDonald's
> lays off 70 American accountants from Ohio and gives their jobs to
> foreign workers as part of cost-cutting exercise
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3800381/McDonald-s-lays-70-American-accountants-Ohio-gives-jobs-foreign-workers-cost-cutting-measure.html
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