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Author: Richard Daggett
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Subject: Re: OT: How to send an email anonymously ...
I am one of the people you talk about in this thread, but I used the rules
on my side.

Most cities (Phoenix), the pad does not matter.

Any free standing building more then 6 feet from property line and any
other structure that is under 100 sq feet roof does not need a permit.
Each city is different and you would need to check codes for your city.

If they build below fence line, HOA does not have a say.

So maybe you should talk with your neighbor and ask what he is making. It
could just be a pad for patio set.

Richard

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:05 PM, JD Austin <> wrote:

> I think Victor is on the right track..
> "Hey.. I heard through the grapevine that someone already complained to
> the the HOA and they're just waiting for you to FINISH what you're doing in
> the backyard before they come down on you along with the city code
> enforcement people. I wanted you to know before you wasted a ton of money
> doing whatever you're doing over there so you can get the right permits/etc
> while you can."
>
> ​​
> ​
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Victor Odhner <> wrote:
>
>> Why don’t you just play it straight? The old “don’t tell others, tell
>> us!” policy.
>>
>> Do you think your neighbor would hate you if you mentioned that you’d
>> heard of people losing a bundle because they had to tear out a
>> non-compliant structure? I’m presuming that your motive really is for them
>> to be spared a major hassle. You could embellish a little, “A friend of
>> mine really got beat up by the licensing people because he screwed up on
>> some stupid details . . . “.
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 16:00:40, Keith Smith <>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-04-30 15:19, wrote:
>> > Every day, I receive email messages sent to me from fake sender email
>> > addresses, even spam garbage supposedly sent to me from my own email
>> > address. How do they do that?
>> > While I have never done this before, I now have a need to do send an
>> > email completely anonymously (preferably using our homeowner association
>> > email address ;) and would like to know how this can be done safely and
>> > not illegally.
>> > To briefly explain, we have a neighbor who has poured the foundation to
>> > build a structure in his back yard (without obtaining a building permit)
>> > and if he should proceed, this non-compliant structure will cause him
>> > even greater expense and hardship if he is not prevented from
>> proceeding.
>> > The size of the foundation makes it very obvious that the structure is
>> > not in compliance with either city building codes or HOA requirements.
>> > Needless to say, we want to avoid causing hard feelings with our
>> > neighbor, so we would like to be able to alert the city authorities
>> > *anonymously* in order to protect our neighbor from continuing and
>> ending
>> > up with very costly consequences.
>> > Regrettably, our home owner's association has taken the position that
>> > they will indeed take the necessary corrective actions, including
>> > notifying the city building code department, once the building is built
>> > and visible from the street; however, they say that they will not take
>> > any action until the building is built and a "visible" violation has
>> > actually been committed. How stupid is that?
>>
>>
>> Is it against your HOA's CC&R's to pour a slab in the back yard of your
>> house? Probably not. If not the HOA would not have a leg to stand on.
>> Once a structure is visable even if it is just the frame it probably will
>> then fall under your HOA's jurisdiction.
>>
>> I would assume city code requires a permit to lay down concrete for any
>> use. At this point it is probably a city issue.
>>
>>
>> > So, my question is, how can I send an email to the city building code
>> > enforcement department to alert them of the homeowner's failure to
>> obtain
>> > a building permit so that the email will appear to be from our homeowner
>> > association?
>> > I have already spoken to them by phone, but they will not take any
>> action
>> > until they receive a formal "complaint" via their online input form
>> which
>> > requires submitting the name and contact information of whoever is
>> filing
>> > the complaint. They say that such reports are best and usually filed by
>> > HOAs and not by neighbors, to avoid needless conflicts.
>> > Obviously, I could just wait until my neighbor has spent all the money
>> to
>> > build the structure and then have a prolonged legal action to force him
>> > to tear it down, but how much better to protect him from all that
>> > needless pain and expense?
>>
>>
>> I would never spoof an email. Who knows where that can lead. They will
>> be able to track it back to you anyway, unless you really get fancy.
>>
>>
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