I am one of the people you talk about in this thread, but I used the rules on my side. Most cities (Phoenix), the pad does not matter. Any free standing building more then 6 feet from property line and any other structure that is under 100 sq feet roof does not need a permit. Each city is different and you would need to check codes for your city. If they build below fence line, HOA does not have a say. So maybe you should talk with your neighbor and ask what he is making. It could just be a pad for patio set. Richard On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:05 PM, JD Austin wrote: > I think Victor is on the right track.. > "Hey.. I heard through the grapevine that someone already complained to > the the HOA and they're just waiting for you to FINISH what you're doing in > the backyard before they come down on you along with the city code > enforcement people. I wanted you to know before you wasted a ton of money > doing whatever you're doing over there so you can get the right permits/etc > while you can." > > ​​ > ​ > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Victor Odhner wrote: > >> Why don’t you just play it straight? The old “don’t tell others, tell >> us!” policy. >> >> Do you think your neighbor would hate you if you mentioned that you’d >> heard of people losing a bundle because they had to tear out a >> non-compliant structure? I’m presuming that your motive really is for them >> to be spared a major hassle. You could embellish a little, “A friend of >> mine really got beat up by the licensing people because he screwed up on >> some stupid details . . . “. >> >> On Apr 30, 2015, at 16:00:40, Keith Smith >> wrote: >> >> On 2015-04-30 15:19, joe@actionline.com wrote: >> > Every day, I receive email messages sent to me from fake sender email >> > addresses, even spam garbage supposedly sent to me from my own email >> > address. How do they do that? >> > While I have never done this before, I now have a need to do send an >> > email completely anonymously (preferably using our homeowner association >> > email address ;) and would like to know how this can be done safely and >> > not illegally. >> > To briefly explain, we have a neighbor who has poured the foundation to >> > build a structure in his back yard (without obtaining a building permit) >> > and if he should proceed, this non-compliant structure will cause him >> > even greater expense and hardship if he is not prevented from >> proceeding. >> > The size of the foundation makes it very obvious that the structure is >> > not in compliance with either city building codes or HOA requirements. >> > Needless to say, we want to avoid causing hard feelings with our >> > neighbor, so we would like to be able to alert the city authorities >> > *anonymously* in order to protect our neighbor from continuing and >> ending >> > up with very costly consequences. >> > Regrettably, our home owner's association has taken the position that >> > they will indeed take the necessary corrective actions, including >> > notifying the city building code department, once the building is built >> > and visible from the street; however, they say that they will not take >> > any action until the building is built and a "visible" violation has >> > actually been committed. How stupid is that? >> >> >> Is it against your HOA's CC&R's to pour a slab in the back yard of your >> house? Probably not. If not the HOA would not have a leg to stand on. >> Once a structure is visable even if it is just the frame it probably will >> then fall under your HOA's jurisdiction. >> >> I would assume city code requires a permit to lay down concrete for any >> use. At this point it is probably a city issue. >> >> >> > So, my question is, how can I send an email to the city building code >> > enforcement department to alert them of the homeowner's failure to >> obtain >> > a building permit so that the email will appear to be from our homeowner >> > association? >> > I have already spoken to them by phone, but they will not take any >> action >> > until they receive a formal "complaint" via their online input form >> which >> > requires submitting the name and contact information of whoever is >> filing >> > the complaint. They say that such reports are best and usually filed by >> > HOAs and not by neighbors, to avoid needless conflicts. >> > Obviously, I could just wait until my neighbor has spent all the money >> to >> > build the structure and then have a prolonged legal action to force him >> > to tear it down, but how much better to protect him from all that >> > needless pain and expense? >> >> >> I would never spoof an email. Who knows where that can lead. They will >> be able to track it back to you anyway, unless you really get fancy. >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> -- >> Keith Smith >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >