HA!
Maybe I learn something after all...
I did learn to hate KDE years ago when there were so many things running
under the hood that it killed all performance.
Unity I just can't digest it...
I'll install a KDE virtual and give it a try, I may change my mind!
Rant away! 8-)
ET
Brian Cluff writes:
> On 06/21/2014 11:05 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com wrote:
>> And/or the M$-like bloated KDE.
>
> Since your ranting, I will too...
> I really hate seeing people continue to spread that KDE is bloated. It
> might have been true in the KDE 3.5 days, but these days it's quite small.
> As far as ram usage it isn't the smallest, but in the class of the full
> featured desktops it's usually among the lowest. It's certainly lower
> memory usage than both Unity and Gnome.
> Even if it wasn't lower, why would you throw out all the time saving,
> integration you get with KDE for what amounts to the ram space of a single
> dollar worth of ram that you get back with the use of one of the "lean"
> desktops.
> I've watched people use the "more efficient" distros over and over and
> spend a ton of time trying to get the features that are built into the
> "bloated" distos.
> ...and if your answer to why you have to run a slim distro is that your
> machine is too old to run anything else, I would recommend spending one of
> the hours that you'll be spending trying to get your machine to work right
> or waiting for the machine to process something and mow your neighbors
> lawn. The money you will make from a single lawn mowing job would buy a
> computer that will run a lot better than that or at least buy enough ram
> to have your current computer run without you having to worry about it.
> Remember that once the libraries are loaded the apps themselves don't
> really take much more ram. I once had a machine with only 4 gigs of RAM
> serving up KDE desktops to 45 xterms, and it usually had a couple of gigs
> free...amazing.
>
> Unless your talking about running very specific programs in an embedded
> environment, it's better to pick a desktop that makes your life easier,
> especially when any of the desktops out these are smaller that a single
> copy of firefox with a single tab open to a single web page. If I could
> find an environment that would save me a bunch of time but used 4 times as
> much RAM as the largest Linux desktop, I would happily run it.
>
> As for your M$-like comment, other than the initial layout which can be
> easily changed to pretty much anything you want, I don't see it. Even if
> it was more M$-like, what's wrong with incorporating some of the better
> features that windows had (Yes, past tense). I'm no MS lover, but not
> everything MS did was garbage. It would be foolish to implement
> everything "different" just because that's the way it was done by
> someone/something that you don't like.
>
> And just to clear things up, KDE is an open source port of the proprietary
> (at the time) CDE, which predates the windows look that Microsoft adopted
> for windows 95.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
>
> If anything, Microsoft copied the layout from CDE, not KDE from M$.
>
> Another thing to consider, is that KDE has kept a similar initial layout
> to it's interface for almost 20 years and almost all changes have been
> very incremental often times with a way to use the legacy interface, so
> there has never been a need to completely relearn everything just because
> a newer version of the distro comes out that they felt the need to
> continue to call the same name even though it's now sporting a completely
> different interface... I"m looking at you Ubuntu and Gnome.
>
> OK, rant over.. I have to end it or I'll go on all day.
>
> Brian Cluff
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