HA!
Maybe I learn something after all...
I did learn to hate KDE years ago when there were so many things running 
under the hood that it killed all performance.
Unity I just can't digest it...
I'll install a KDE virtual and give it a try, I may change my mind!
Rant away!   8-)
ET 

 

Brian Cluff writes: 

> On 06/21/2014 11:05 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com wrote:
>> And/or the M$-like bloated KDE.
> 
> Since your ranting, I will too...
> I really hate seeing people continue to spread that KDE is bloated.  It 
> might have been true in the KDE 3.5 days, but these days it's quite small. 
>  As far as ram usage it isn't the smallest, but in the class of the full 
> featured desktops it's usually among the lowest.  It's certainly lower 
> memory usage than both Unity and Gnome.
> Even if it wasn't lower, why would you throw out all the time saving, 
> integration you get with KDE for what amounts to the ram space of a single 
> dollar worth of ram that you get back with the use of one of the "lean" 
> desktops.
> I've watched people use the "more efficient" distros over and over and 
> spend a ton of time trying to get the features that are built into the 
> "bloated" distos.
> ...and if your answer to why you have to run a slim distro is that your 
> machine is too old to run anything else, I would recommend spending one of 
> the hours that you'll be spending trying to get your machine to work right 
> or waiting for the machine to process something and mow your neighbors 
> lawn.  The money you will make from a single lawn mowing job would buy a 
> computer that will run a lot better than that or at least buy enough ram 
> to have your current computer run without you having to worry about it.
> Remember that once the libraries are loaded the apps themselves don't 
> really take much more ram.  I once had a machine with only 4 gigs of RAM 
> serving up KDE desktops to 45 xterms, and it usually had a couple of gigs 
> free...amazing. 
> 
> Unless your talking about running very specific programs in an embedded 
> environment, it's better to pick a desktop that makes your life easier, 
> especially when any of the desktops out these are smaller that a single 
> copy of firefox with a single tab open to a single web page.  If I could 
> find an environment that would save me a bunch of time but used 4 times as 
> much RAM as the largest Linux desktop, I would happily run it. 
> 
> As for your M$-like comment, other than the initial layout which can be 
> easily changed to pretty much anything you want, I don't see it.  Even if 
> it was more M$-like, what's wrong with incorporating some of the better 
> features that windows had (Yes, past tense).  I'm no MS lover, but not 
> everything MS did was garbage.  It would be foolish to implement 
> everything "different" just because that's the way it was done by 
> someone/something that you don't like. 
> 
> And just to clear things up, KDE is an open source port of the proprietary 
> (at the time) CDE, which predates the windows look that Microsoft adopted 
> for windows 95. 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment 
> 
> If anything, Microsoft copied the layout from CDE, not KDE from M$. 
> 
> Another thing to consider, is that KDE has kept a similar initial layout 
> to it's interface for almost 20 years and almost all changes have been 
> very incremental often times with a way to use the legacy interface, so 
> there has never been a need to completely relearn everything just because 
> a newer version of the distro comes out that they felt the need to 
> continue to call the same name even though it's now sporting a completely 
> different interface... I"m looking at you Ubuntu and Gnome. 
> 
> OK, rant over.. I have to end it or I'll go on all day. 
> 
> Brian Cluff
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